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To: xzins

So where is Congress’ definition of “natural born citizen” then? If they’ve got one then why is there any question of what the term means? Why does everybody acknowledge that there is no passage of Constitution or law that expressly says that anybody born on the country’s soil or born to anybody who is a US citizen is a “natural born citizen”?

In the end, as passionate as we can all be about this subject, our passion means nothing. What the Constitution says, at this point, means nothing. The only thing that means anything is what SCOTUS is going to rule, and Hillary Clinton is going to challenge Ted Cruz’ eligibility if Cruz ever beats her to win the Presidency. That is just a fact. Can we agree on that? And when she challenges it, the decision will fall to John Roberts. Can we agree on that? And John Roberts is owned by the Obama regime and the handlers for the Obama regime. Can we agree on that? And they will tell Roberts to do whatever he has to, to get rid of Cruz or any other man or woman who has the gumption to do what is necessary to save this country. Can we agree on that?

It’s fun to debate stuff, but if the debate keeps us from doing what has to be done to save the country, it is DANGEROUS debate. We can’t afford that kind of debate. It is absolutely imperative that we get a court ruling on the definition of NBC so we know the rules when we choose our Presidential candidate. If you feel certain that your understanding is correct then you should welcome that. If somebody arguing with you feels certain of their view then they should welcome that. We should ALL welcome a ruling by SCOTUS. But the key, critical, absolutely essential aspect of that ruling is that it needs to come BEFORE the 2016 primary, which means we need to get busy and focus on getting ‘r done.

How can we do that? Everybody here needs to be asking how we can get a definition locked in stone BEFORE the primary of 2016 so the wily critters can’t make all our effort wasted through one single legal blow.

My suggestion is at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3084995/posts?page=431#431 . Please, please, please, can we discuss a strategy that will work? As fun as the circular firing squad is, it will end up hurting us. We need to work together for SOLUTIONS.


438 posted on 10/30/2013 7:20:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

That means that any definition of “natural born” is in the realm of discussion, doesn’t it, since the Constitution does not define it.

We do know that Congress has the power to make laws on the subject, though, so when they define who DOES need to be naturalized, they are defining who DOES NOT need it.

Those persons not needing naturalization are, apparently, already natural. They have been BORN automatically as citizens.


442 posted on 10/30/2013 7:36:27 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: butterdezillion

The courts were not given the authority in the Constitution. The Congress was.


443 posted on 10/30/2013 7:38:29 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: butterdezillion
I'm always impressed by how well you read the board and see how the pieces play.

Please accept my heartfelt, but belated, thank you for the education and insights wrapped inside your posts here.

And also my humble thanks for the reminder to turn from the board once in a while and try to "see" the actual players. So easy to forget where we are in the story we were born into, while playing the game.

"anyone who claims to be in the Light
but hates his brother
is still living in the dark;"
1 John 2:9

446 posted on 10/30/2013 7:40:18 AM PDT by GBA (Ezekiel ch. 7, verses 1-14...our consequences?)
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