To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I welcome continued intelligent discussion on the issue. Emotion? well, not so much.I agree, for some reason though it is now not allowed on FR, lest you be labeled a troll.
I like Cruz A LOT too! I am behind him 100% and wish all in Congress shared his love for the Constitution and America as he does.
My dilemma, I believe after studying the issue here since 2008 and railing against obmmies eligibility, NBC = 2 Citizen parents born on US soil.
I'm finding it very difficult to change position for expediency and for that, I will now be a troll a traitor and undermining Cruz.
I guess I'll just stay off of these threads from now on.
164 posted on
10/29/2013 1:02:53 PM PDT by
Las Vegas Ron
("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
To: Las Vegas Ron
I'm finding it very difficult to change position for expediency and for that, I will now be a troll a traitor and undermining Cruz.
This isn't about expediency, it is about the FACT that there is no legal definition/law in the Constitution, U.S. Law, or the rulings of the Supreme Court for a definition of "Natural Born" citizen that requires both parents to be US Citizens at the time of birth.
Just because SOME of the founders may have believed that it required 2 US Citizens, or some outside legal authority believed it required 2 US Citizens does not provide the necessary legal framework/foundation/definition to support your contention.
It is only your opinion, and those who agree with you. It is not law.
167 posted on
10/29/2013 1:18:46 PM PDT by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: Las Vegas Ron; Red Steel
See my post at #154. When Red pointed me to
Rogers v. Bellei, I read it probably 30 times, consulted well-respected attorneys who I personally know and a couple of federal court judges in Dallas about that case. At first, I felt like a hypocrite for changing my position on statutory citizenship after all of these years.
But now I am comfortable with my decision and the logic I followed to get there. Maybe my post will help you. Maybe it won't. But you're not a troll. You may get zotted if you argue too loudly and publicly against Cruz's eligibility on FR, but you are not a troll. I know your position is an honest one, founded on well-researched documention.
You're one of my favorite "jerks" with whom to debate. I hope you stick around.
180 posted on
10/29/2013 1:46:53 PM PDT by
BuckeyeTexan
(There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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