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Pickup driver’s fight with cyclists leads to crushed bike, jail
Yahoo ^ | Tue, Oct 22, 2013 12:54 PM EDT | Justin Hyde

Posted on 10/23/2013 5:20:00 PM PDT by JSDude1

In the past few years, many cities and local governments have embraced bicycling as a reasonable way to use public roads — carving out special lanes, setting up bike-sharing stations and generally making life easier for those who want to travel by two wheels rather than four.

But those moves haven't come without complaint about congestion and special treatment, and just as biking clubs have grown for weekend riders, so has anti-bike advocacy and concerns about who rules the road — such as the handmade warning signs above from a pro-vehicle group. In a shocking but not surprising turn, one Texas man now faces charges after being caught on video threatening a group of cyclists with a baseball bat — and ending the row by running over a $5,000 bicycle.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: bicycle; hobby; motorvehicle; roadrules
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To: JSDude1

Kings of the Road in their beloved automobiles hate everyone else on the road, bicycles, motorcycles, other automobile drivers, that’s a given, well illustrated here.


41 posted on 10/23/2013 6:25:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: donmeaker

>>Snark from the dishonest. Well it is the only weapon left when facts and logic fail.

I don’t need a weapon to beat you. In my state, bicycles have FULL right to use the entire road. I don’t. I try to give cars all the road they need, but I’m not going to drive into a curb or into soft sand so you can save a few seconds. I do obey stop signs and stop lights. If you are such a big jerk that you can’t accept that, then I really don’t give a damn. Come to Florida and knock a bike off the road and you can face the full wrath of the law.


42 posted on 10/23/2013 6:25:55 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
A bicycle does no damage to the road.

Bravo Sierra.

Depends entirely on the road surface. A bicyle's narrow tire does much more damage to a dirt or gravel road than a motor vehicle where the weight is more broadly distributed.

One reason why Wisconsin requires daily or annual permit fees for bicyclists using its rail trail system but allows hikers to use the network for free.

43 posted on 10/23/2013 6:26:26 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: JSDude1

The 98% of bicyclers who are arrogant assholes give the 2% who are not a bad rap.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 6:27:49 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Revolting cat!

>>Kings of the Road in their beloved automobiles hate everyone else on the road, bicycles, motorcycles, other automobile drivers, that’s a given, well illustrated here.

Bicycle threads on FR are always do a great job of revealing a lack of character.


45 posted on 10/23/2013 6:28:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
still get swerved at, yelled at, beeped at, and have had things thrown at me.

Yep, it's always been that way. Some states are better than others. It's best to ride paranoid.

46 posted on 10/23/2013 6:29:57 PM PDT by glorgau
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a bunch of Lance Armstrong wannabees clog up the road and expect everyone else to read their minds.. color me surprised.


47 posted on 10/23/2013 6:30:46 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: lightman

>>Bravo Sierra.

>>Depends entirely on the road surface. A bicyle’s narrow tire does much more damage to a dirt or gravel road than a motor vehicle where the weight is more broadly distributed.

In my state, roads are paved. And any bike that rides on a dirt or gravel road is going to have a large contact patch. Those narrow road bike tires are NOT compatible with gravel or dirt, even hard-packed clay.


48 posted on 10/23/2013 6:31:16 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Wow, and here I thought I was among friends!

I guess it is true about when one gets behind the wheel.


49 posted on 10/23/2013 6:42:36 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings)
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To: Bryanw92
Do you really think that adult cyclists don’t drive cars? Or trucks? We pay gas taxes too. And since you’re allocating road space and rights by the amount of tax paid, does that give semis the right to hit SUVs, who have the right to hit sedans, who have the right to hit subcompacts, who have the right to hit motorcycles?

You aren't paying gas taxes while riding your $5000 bicycles, wearing $200 worth of spandex, with your $100 toe clip shoes on. Meanwhile in the peoples republic of Portland, OR automobile lane miles have been converted to bike only lanes using...GAS TAX road funds.

There's a simple solution, GPS trackers on bicycles that track mileage and charge taxes accordingly. Either that or a $10 tax on every single bicycle tire. I mean, share the road, share the expense right?
50 posted on 10/23/2013 6:43:42 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: JSDude1

“Outside of freeways, cyclists have the same right-of-ways as any other user.”

When was the last time you observed cyclists follow the vehicle code,stopping at stop signs and lights, signaling a stop or turn? The cyclists I see as a rule, not all of them but most, race thru stops, swerve into traffic and act as if the road belongs to them alone.


51 posted on 10/23/2013 6:47:27 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Bryanw92
Remember, I have less than 1/2 horsepower, so when a cyclist stops, he has to restart using muscle power.

You have more than 0.2 hp available for the 10 seconds it takes to accelerate to cruising speed.

52 posted on 10/23/2013 6:52:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

0.5


53 posted on 10/23/2013 6:53:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mastador1
The cyclists I see as a rule, not all of them but most, race thru stops, swerve into traffic and act as if the road belongs to them alone.

You are describing automobile drivers as well. At a four way stop near where I live, between a fairly busy street and a quiet street, a cop parks his car on the latter, I've seen it a number of times walking home from the train station, and it takes him no more than 30 seconds to catch a stop sign runner. One time I was challenging a traffic ticket for a stop sign run (elsewhere), and I did research, together with measurements of distances and count of automobiles. Out of 110 cars at this intersection, also a four way sign, at 1 PM, which is when I got my ticket, one (1) made a full stop. I won the challenge.

54 posted on 10/23/2013 6:53:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Paladin2

Would be nice to have a semi moped capability with regenerative braking. Then the bike would give you much of your speed back.


55 posted on 10/23/2013 6:54:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Bryanw92

I will visit your funeral if your family will tell me when it is.

I will mourn your loss.

Physics. Drop a tennis ball with a basketball, with the tennis ball on top. Do this outside.

The momentum from the basketball goes into the tennisball. Of course that would be a nearly elastic collision, so you get to see the tennisball fly away. In a car-cyclist crash, you get to hear the bones snap, the muscles turn to jelly under the tire treads. The undertaker has a lot of work to do, and they do miracles with wax these days.

Drive carefully. I will do the same, and may we never meet by accident!


56 posted on 10/23/2013 6:56:35 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: Paladin2

Your calculations are better. No way can a man generate half a horsepower


57 posted on 10/23/2013 6:56:36 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Bryanw92

In my state some roads are paved. Some are potholed from the money stolen from the highway trust fund for trains and bike paths.


58 posted on 10/23/2013 6:57:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: JSDude1

This thread reminds me of the Toxic Avenger scene with the kid on the bike.


59 posted on 10/23/2013 6:58:02 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: dennisw
The human output is heavily dependent on the time of exertion.

Cyclists can easily put out > 1hp for periods of less than a minute.

60 posted on 10/23/2013 6:58:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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