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California Sheriff's Deputies Shoot, Kill 13-Year-Old
Breitbart ^ | 23 Oct 2013, 12:15 PM

Posted on 10/23/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by null and void

Two Sonoma County deputies on patrol saw the boy walking with what appeared to be a high-powered weapon Tuesday afternoon in Santa Rosa, sheriff's Lt. Dennis O'Leary said.

The replica gun resembled an AK-47 with a black magazine cartridge and brown butt, according to a photograph released by the sheriff's office. Deputies would only learn after the shooting that it wasn't an actual firearm, according to O'Leary.

After spotting the boy, the deputies called for backup and repeatedly ordered him to drop the gun, O'Leary said in a news release. It wasn't clear whether he pointed the replica assault rifle at the deputies or made any type of threatening gesture. The sheriff's office referred calls to the Santa Rosa Police Department, which did not immediately return a call for comment.

O'Leary said the deputies fired several rounds from their handguns immediately after issuing the orders to drop the rifle.

"First, I heard a single siren and within seconds I heard seven shots go off, sounded like a nail gun, is what I thought it was," he said.

The boy fell to the ground on top of the rifle, according to O'Leary. He said the deputies ordered him to move away before approaching him and putting him in handcuffs.

They began administering first aid and called for paramedics, who pronounced him dead at the scene. Deputies also found a plastic handgun in the boy's waistband, O'Leary said. The deputies, who have not been identified, have been placed on administrative leave, which is standard after a shooting, O'Leary said.

The family was back at their mobile home Tuesday night after identifying the boy's body

The newspaper quoted the boy's mother, Sujey Annel Cruz Cazarez, as saying, ""Why did they kill him? Why?"

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To: baddog 219

Shooting a dog doesn’t get rewarded with a paid vacation. It is a satisfying experience but doesn’t have that extra motivation attached.


41 posted on 10/23/2013 4:03:57 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: sport
"fired several rounds from their handguns immediately after issuing the orders to drop the rifle. "

SOP. That is how they are trained now. Sometimes they forget to say, "Drop the gun!" but they always finish off by saying, "I felt threatened,"

42 posted on 10/23/2013 4:07:13 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was surprised that it was deputies rather than city cops but then I noticed that it was California.


43 posted on 10/23/2013 4:09:10 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Right Wing Assault

The boy was playing with toy guns. He deserved to die.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 4:10:44 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: publius911

I agree.

Neighbor kids came out of the woods by my house wearing airsoft ‘armor’ and with airsoft guns. From 30+ feet it all looks real.
(I heard the noise of their shots and knew they were airsoft so it didn’t surprise me.)

With 12 year olds shooting teachers at school, this could also have been in the back of the craw of these cops.

Who knows if he pointed it at them or not.


45 posted on 10/23/2013 4:11:39 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Gator113

My Godson is a LEO in a small midwestern town.. These days ya never know who may pass thru.. what may pop up on the boonies..

Thanks for your service.


46 posted on 10/23/2013 4:15:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: null and void

Andy Lopez

47 posted on 10/23/2013 4:15:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Responsibility2nd
NO OTHER FACTS NEED TO BE DETERMINED!

Things like this did not happen 50 years ago. Police were not trained to shoot first then determine what the situation was. Police were not trained with targets printed with pretty women and children on them as they are now. Police were not trained that their safety utterly trumps any other consideration and that their first impression governs their necessary response. Police 50 years ago were not trained to react as if they were occupying troops in a dangerous and hostile population and every third person had an explosive vest on.

48 posted on 10/23/2013 4:17:48 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: monkeyshine

I would bet dollars to doughnuts the shooters spent their youth playing Dungeons and Dragons and shootemup war games like Grand Theft Auto. To them the world is a video game. They have no consciences and no morals at all. The bad guy pops up and you shoot him. These are who our drone operators are, too. I expect that soon drones will be used in situations like this so as not to put police officers in danger. When that happens they don’t even have to acknowledge that they shot the kid. They can decide whether to claim the shoot based on whether or not they feel the need to intimidate a neighborhood or a family.


49 posted on 10/23/2013 4:29:35 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: RginTN
Maybe the teen had a death wish or he was mentally retarded or he didn’t speak English??

Well, you obviously speak English, but the other two might apply based on this comment.

50 posted on 10/23/2013 4:30:45 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. [Ludwig Von Mises])
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To: BushCountry

I am sure that is part of the lessons being taught by the police. Train kids to believe that guns are evil and will only serve to get you killed. Bad guns.


51 posted on 10/23/2013 4:31:51 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: donmeaker

bad training. standard training when officer safety trumps your rights and your life.


52 posted on 10/23/2013 4:42:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: null and void
DROP YOUR WEAPON BANG BANG BANG.

This pisses me off.
The kid probably had no chance to comprehend what he was told to do.

53 posted on 10/23/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: NormsRevenge

;>)


54 posted on 10/23/2013 5:07:12 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Cruz, Palin and Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: Wanderer99

Eventually people will begin to stalk and kill the cops who do these things. Then it will be warfare between the cops and the citizenry. Police will not patrol, as such, they will drive around in fleets of armored cars and will shoot people from inside their rolling forts to intimidate the populace. That is The Terror as it begins in the US of A. It has already begun with shootings by police that are becoming more and more like random killings.


55 posted on 10/23/2013 5:13:55 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: BushCountry
Hmmm... that gun looks pretty "real" to me.

Of course I think the cops made a mistake, but even at 13 didn't that kid have some "inkling" about what might happen?

If this were a 25 year old with the same "gun" I'll bet he'd be dropped also.

With tensions running as high as they are these days, you'd have to be all kinds of stupid to pull a stunt like this.

56 posted on 10/23/2013 5:23:38 PM PDT by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: null and void

The newspaper quoted the boy’s mother, Sujey Annel Cruz Cazarez, as saying, “”Why did they kill him? Why?”

Because they’re unthinking idiots in a state that’s fanatical in its fear of firearms, that’s why.

Barney Fife kills Opie for having a squirt gun. Once upon a time, long, long agho, that would have outraged Americans. No longer.


57 posted on 10/23/2013 5:44:48 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: null and void

Scary stuff. In no way am I knee jerk defending the police, but I think it is hard telling what the timing was or whether the gun was altered after he was shot. The gun looked pretty real to me and the kid doesn’t look any more like a youngster than Trayvon, at least in that get-up he has on.

The police are far too quick to shoot, but if the 13 year old kept the gun held up and the cops didn’t do “drop it, bang” like they did in Seattle to the Indian fellow carrying a carving knife, he may have been an unfortunate Darwin award winner.

Were I a parent, these days I would not buy or let my kid have a toy gun that was even a tiny bit close to the real thing. And even with a toy gun, the kid shouldn’t be pointing it at anyone. Scares people, scares cops, and just might get ‘em killed.


58 posted on 10/23/2013 5:47:34 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: boop

Stunt? What stunt?


59 posted on 10/23/2013 6:10:05 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: null and void

I guess it’s open season on white kids in Obamanation.


60 posted on 10/23/2013 6:23:02 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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