Posted on 10/19/2013 5:50:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare and many wont participate in the new national insurance program because they fear theyll go broke, The Post has learned.
ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care thats whats going to happen, predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. I will not accept it.
Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.
Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said hes concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.
Many doctors, he argues, wont be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.
Moore scoffed, Whos going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? Its basically going to be a race to the bottom.(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Two-tier service, as in the UK.
Watch for Zero to criminalize "discriminatory medicine."
I dropped some roofing metal once, landed on my leg, scraped downward onto my ankle. I had no insurance, but my boss was going to pay for it. I went to the hospital for an Xray of my ankle, and the total cost was a littl over $250. When I told them I was writing a check, I got an immediate 10% discount.
I handed the receipt to my boss, and he was INCREDULOUS that I didn't go to the vet clinic for the exact same X-ray. It would have cost $25 there. Had I known....
It’s disgusting isn’t it, a slimebag like John Edwards living in a massive house with millions of bucks he stole from doctors while that doctor is busting his ass everyday to make ends meet. How the hell does anyone afford $300 grand a year just in insurance payments? Even if this doc was making a million a year which I highly doubt, after taxes he would be taking home half that, then over half of that goes to insurance. Then what he has left he has to pay for his office, staff, equipment - It’s insane, I can’t see how any doctor could survive today. And now he has to deal with this freakin’ commie care?
These days I hear about bills of thousands and tens of thousands at vet clinics (for animals). Not sure if there are any great bargains there.
What is the incentive for someone to invest the money and hard work to get through med school, internship, and residency to become a slave of the state?
So if you dont think running is good for you, that’s fine with me. But Ive already accomplished 45 years of running since I was in college. So your advice is a little late coming to the party. Ive met people like you over the years who were anti-running but they didnt have an answer for themselves as an alternative that worked any better and didnt cause its own health or medical problems. Your bias shows in your description of running as extreme and debilitating. It is neither. Yes, I ran for 45 years until my knee cartilage wore out but all of my four siblings and my dad had the same condition and had knee replacements in their late 50s and early 60s too. None of them ran or exercised except me. So to blame the problem strictly on running is disingenuous. Genetic inheritance is the primary factor in my family. I’ve studied nutrition and all aspects of running for years, and Ive never read anything that suggested I was more prone to getting cancer because I ran. Maybe there is some anecdotal evidence of this but it is not a prevalent opinion.
The positive benefits of running far outweighed the negatives. My doctors are all in agreement that I was much healthier and better off because I ran than I would have been if I hadn’t. My weight stayed normal, I was heart healthy, my pulse rate was down in the low 40s and I felt strong and fit and never was sick for over 45 years. I started running in the late 60s, because I was overweight and the Air Force required me to run a mile and a half to pass their fitness test. Over the years, running has become commonplace and is very popular today and millions of people participate in it for exercise. Running has the usual naysayers like yourself. It is easy for some to criticize others who have actually accomplished something in their lives but much harder to be out there on the field of play day in and day out, doing what they think will improve their lives.
Work twice as hard for half as much.
It’s the Obama way, except it doesn’t apply to the King.
Any fool that Voted for Obama and his ilk deserve every moment of what they get. The rest of us will suffer of course, but that was all part of the Master Plan.
Remember, the Prisoners in the Gulags cried when Stalin died. The moment you step outside your house, realize that we are surrounded by nothing but Useful Idiots.
They Live, and we’re the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.
The irony is that she's enthusiastic about Obamacare.
I would think that too except he quoted the previous that said veterinarian.
Made no sense to me.
Happens all the time within families.
With Obamacare, it will be happening outside of Families too.
Reminds me of a story from my M-I-L. When she and her Husband were visiting Europe, she had a Medical problem, can’t remember what it was.
The Doctor at the Clinic there gave her some Medicine to treat it. When they got home, she went to see her own Doctor and took the Prescription with her to show him. He took one look at it and threw it away. He told her that in this Country, the Medicine she was given was used to treat Horses.
LOL! You got to be kidding me. I use to make that kind of money when I was 24 with a High school education driving a truck for Poland spring in New York city. That is absolutely disgusting. And she is FOR Obamacare? What?
...the death camps are coming later.
Even before Hitler, the German elite (doctors, lawyers, psychologists) were planning ways to eliminate the old, the vulnerable, the disabled. The plan was called “The Solution to Life Devoid of Value”, and many “scholarly” treatises were written by these same elite in the 1920’s.
They actually started with WW1 veterans who were amputees. They started “disappearing” from the national “homes” and “hospitals”. Their relatives would receive death notices with no explanations of how or why.
Then they went to the orphanages. They did away with children who were mentally or physially disabled—then the bedwetters—then the ones who were “ugly” by the standards of the Master Race. Kids with big ears or red hair or the ones they couldn’t control.
Read “A Sign for Cain” by Frederic Wertham, or “Berlin Diary” by Christopher Isherwood.
Liberal literature? WTF are you talking about? I live here and see the massive growth of all these places. You can’t go two blocks without seeing new businesses [i.e Texas Health Clinic, Quest Diagnostics,...]
I had a discussion with a doctor who deals with chronic disease. He had a visit by some MediCAIR beurocrats, asking him why he sees his non-MediCAIR patients more than he sees his MediCAIR patients.
He explained he sees his MediCAIR patients as many times as the plan supports. But the patients cannot afford to pay for extra visits.
He told them he has found the more frequent visits helps his patients maintain a higher quality of life and better health.
The beurocrats warned him that it isn’t fair to give the extra care to patients who happen to be privately insured.
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