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1 posted on 10/17/2013 7:00:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I'm not gullible enough to say the Republicans won by any stretch of the imagination but they may have accidentally stumbled on to a "fig leaf" that, in the long run, could end up doing far more damage to Obamacare than they, the democrats, or Obama believe.

Word is that insurance companies are NOT happy with the new provision that requires them to verify income and eligibility before they can issue a policy. The insurance companies were the ones that had petitioned Obama to postpone the verification requirements in the first place. The reason being is that there is currently no simple "one stop" system in place for them to do the verifications. Since the onus is now on the companies to obtain information to verify eligibility, they will be on the hook if they issue a policy without doing so.

So how will this hurt Obamacare as a whole? It will add another layer of bureaucracy to an already obtuse and convoluted system and make it even harder for people to sign up than it is now. It will also create delays as the insurance companies must verify eligibility before they can issue the policy. Last, it could very well drive some insurance providers out of the exchanges altogether and keep others from joining (participation is already very low with some states only having a single company).

26 posted on 10/17/2013 7:21:53 AM PDT by apillar
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No chit ... and look at them gloat. RNC is dead to me.


31 posted on 10/17/2013 7:24:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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Hate to say it...but Schmucky is not wrong.


32 posted on 10/17/2013 7:26:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Since they wanted to lift the sequester, they didn’t REALLY get everything they wanted. They DID end up with the bill they originally agreed to back on September 30th, with a small change.

Which should REALLY get an unbiased press to ask — why didn’t Reid bargain with McConnell in September for this deal? Why did he wait until 2 weeks of shutdown.

Anyway, this wasn’t really a bargain, it was surrender terms. We didn’t really bargain away anything. That’s like saying the Japanese “bargained” badly at the end of WW2.

We lost the war. But just remember — Texas LOST at the Alamo as well. But that doesn’t mean the Alamo was a senseless fight.


33 posted on 10/17/2013 7:27:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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he’s right, because checking income before giving ppl subsidizes was already part of obamacare. So basically GOP got what was already law


36 posted on 10/17/2013 7:29:34 AM PDT by 4rcane
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Karma’s gonna get you Schumer. I am curious about your business with Mexico and their drugs.


38 posted on 10/17/2013 7:32:42 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Thatcher's "Ratchet Effect" worked once again. America moves ever leftward and only occasionally stops, but never moves back to the right.

We haven't had a real conservative as president since Reagan who left office 25 years ago. Bush I got into office because the Dems ran the worst candidate in history, Michael Dukakis. Bush II got into office by lying and telling everyone he was a "compassionate conservative". He governed like a mushy moderate and rapidly moved us toward bankruptcy.

Now the GOP holds the House but cannot hold the line on spending. Gee, I wonder why?

It's because we are being crushed in the vice of a Hegelian dialectic. The Dems and the GOP are on the same team and working toward the same goal - complete control. If you control both teams, you always win. Those who whine that we can't have a third party don't understand that a third party would actually be a second party.

If we stick with the current political landscape, we lose America and our freedom. Take the red pill and wake up.

39 posted on 10/17/2013 7:34:10 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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Guess what Chuckie..... YOU OWN IT ALL - LOCK,STOCK, AND BARREL.


40 posted on 10/17/2013 7:35:10 AM PDT by jersey117
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The republican leadership didn’t even fight... they didn’t even negotiate... they rolled over exposing their fat bellies for schmucky to rub.


45 posted on 10/17/2013 7:40:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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Of course they did. The GOP is just another wing of the Democratic Party....they just provide the cover to make it look like there was opposition.


46 posted on 10/17/2013 7:41:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I don’t think kicking the can to January is EVERYTHING the rats wanted.

Let’s do this again. Right after New Years.....


50 posted on 10/17/2013 7:45:43 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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The national government has become like California; i.e. under total leftist-alien control.

I'm leaving the Republican party as I have been threatening for several years. I usually do not vote for people any more only the ballot proposals so as an Independent I can still vote on them.

Republicans! What a "bunch" of gutless wonders. People who have sunk to the nonentity status of "Jesse Jackson," "Al Sharpton," "The Divine One" in short those who do not belong but who are in control. How vile, low and loathsome like looking into a cesspool.

54 posted on 10/17/2013 8:02:33 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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The GOPe have been played like fiddles for decades. They love it.


56 posted on 10/17/2013 8:08:10 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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It may be seen as a fig leaf but it is more than a fig leaf. I can’t believe they were going to roll this thing forward without verification of eligibility for the subsidies. That makes it infinitely damaging, rather than enormously damaging, and there’s a difference. I guess they figured they could always allow fraud, just as in the disability program. But we made it illegal.

Onward to repeal of the entire dungpile at some future date.


59 posted on 10/17/2013 8:38:19 AM PDT by firebrand
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Of course, republican cowards. Sold out for nothing but smoke an mirrors.
65 posted on 10/17/2013 8:57:37 AM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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Chuckie just told everyone what “Bipartisanship” really is.

Is anyone here surprised by this?
He let the Rat out of the bag.


80 posted on 10/17/2013 10:06:42 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Due to the Federal Government Shutdown, this Tagline is Barrycaded.)
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Chuckie Cheese classy as usual. Typical Marxist scum.


81 posted on 10/17/2013 11:22:27 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory ... Thomas Jefferson)
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Chuckie is right.

MY SUGGESTION?

We at Free Republic take up A SPECIAL collection to find WHOEVER is running against that turtle-necked old bastard Mitch McConnell the CHIEF architect of this catastrophe.

HE should be the political target of the day


82 posted on 10/18/2013 2:54:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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“fig leaf”?

Healthcare.gov is falling to pieces, and there’s now a brand new systems integration requirement generated that MUST be included, by law.

Where does the income validation come from? How long will it take to establish the interface? Once the interface IS established, how long does the actual verification take?

I dont think this is a fig leaf. It’s a major new, late arriving systems requirement thats going to cause even more problems with Healthcare.gov.


84 posted on 10/18/2013 3:07:25 AM PDT by tanknetter
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