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A Chevy Impala That Goes 500 Miles On A Tank? With Natural Gas, It's Possible
Forbes ^ | 10/16/2013 | Joann Muller

Posted on 10/17/2013 6:06:17 AM PDT by thackney

Capitalizing on America’s abundant supply of clean-burning, low-cost natural gas, General Motors said Wednesday it will build a Chevrolet Impala sedan that can operate on either gasoline or compressed natural gas and travel up to 500 miles between fill-ups.

The bi-fuel Impala, which goes on sale summer as a 2015 model, could be the start of something big. Honda Motor has been selling a natural gas-powered Civic since 2011 and while still modest, sales have been steadily rising. The Japanese carmaker is on track to sell about 2,500 CNG Civics this year, up from 1,900 in 2012 and 1,200 the year before. In July, Ford Motor said its most popular vehicle, the F-150 pickup, will be offered with a compressed natural gas engine starting in the 2014 model year.

“Natural gas will grow increasingly attractive as an alternative fuel source, as we’ve seen each year with natural gas Honda Civic sales, particularly in areas like California where HOV lane access is available,” said Alec Gutierrez, senior analyst for Kelley Blue Book. “The lack of infrastructure remains a hurdle, but if more automakers begin to offer CNG-powered vehicles, we could see a greater push for access to CNG in the years to come.”

The Impala’s bi-fuel powertrain is engineered to switch seamlessly from CNG to gasoline, which should reassure consumers worried about finding a place to refuel. For business fleet customers, whose drivers return to a central location, CNG refueling shouldn’t be a problem. GM did not announce the new car’s price, which is likely to be higher than the standard gas model, but savings at the pump could offset that extra payout quickly.

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To: virgil283

Are you familiar with the ideal gas equation?

pV = nRT

The energy requirements for a sufficiently higher pressure are essential unchanged if you move a sufficiently lower volume.


141 posted on 10/17/2013 12:08:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

no....Boyles Law [sic] is the only one I remember these days....ha


142 posted on 10/17/2013 12:11:34 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: nascarnation

No I was about 12 and just play-doh’ed the valve to head clearance and milled it with wet sand-paper on top of a saw bed (I assumed it to be flat.)

I didn’t know about or understand the differences in metal expansion rates or valve float. I might even have spun it over 3600 rpm...


143 posted on 10/17/2013 12:18:34 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("In politics, stupidity is not a handicap." Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Clay Moore

Great job! Back in the early 60s when I was a teen I hung out at a gas station where the owner had a Ford flathead stock car he raced.

They got some good power, but there were ongoing problems with cracking the block between the valves and cylinder bore.
I learned a lot about mechanics from those guys, the good old days.


144 posted on 10/17/2013 12:54:33 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: Clay Moore

Great job! Back in the early 60s when I was a teen I hung out at a gas station where the owner had a Ford flathead stock car he raced.

They got some good power, but there were ongoing problems with cracking the block between the valves and cylinder bore.
I learned a lot about mechanics from those guys, the good old days.


145 posted on 10/17/2013 12:54:33 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
When I was in Engineering School at Michigan we made an LNG Ford F-150. That was 20 years ago.

When I told my Uncle that we were working on it he said: “That strange I did the same when I went to Michigan 30 years ago.”

The economics and infrastructure were just not feasible at the time.

Now with fracking it looks more promising.

146 posted on 10/17/2013 1:18:48 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: atc23
That being said, LNG is going to be the future for road vehicles and much more - IMO

Its hard to beat the energy density, stability and portability of gasoline.

But I believe you are right about LNG in the long run.

147 posted on 10/17/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Mikey_1962

The other option is that nat gas becomes pervasive in the commercial arena (where vehicles come back to a central fuel depot) and in railroads. Leaving more petroleum for cars.


148 posted on 10/17/2013 1:28:00 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: mountainlion

Yeah, the to n percent corn fuel doesn’t give the same amount of “go” as the non corn blends.
Here in NY we have no choice, everything is ten to fifteen percent ethanol.
Which reduces your range in winter.


149 posted on 10/17/2013 5:58:58 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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