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Right-wing nuts nab new way to sabotage Obamacare
Salon ^ | 17 Oct 2013 | By David Dayen

Posted on 10/17/2013 5:07:52 AM PDT by 11th_VA

The final deal to avert a breach of the debt limit and end the government shutdown included what has been described as a “small concession” to Republicans: tightening the income verification measures for customers on the Obamacare insurance exchanges to qualify for subsidies. But considering the hurdles associated with this step – and the enormous IT problems we’ve already seen with the exchanges – the concession may not be small at all.

As one prominent health care expert tells Salon, the impact could contribute to an attempted sabotage of the law by those who want to see it repealed. Rather than letting the health care law survive “unscathed,” the income verification piece could trigger a new round of headaches for Obamacare, and this time, Republicans – and the country – will be paying attention.

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Starr’s perspective is borne by the early experience of the exchanges. The federal exchange, which is the Obamacare portal for customers in 34 states, has performed very badly in the opening weeks. Even supporters of the law like the Washington Post’s Ezra Klein has called the rollout a disaster. Not only have potential customers been unable to register for the program after 20 or 30 attempts, those few who have been successful aren’t having their data transferred to insurance companies properly.

“Things are worse behind the curtain than in front of it,” according to health care writer Bob Laszlewski, describing how the system is enrolling and unenrolling customers seemingly at random. If HHS can’t approve subsidies until the Inspector General decides income verification is operational, that would definitely delay subsidies – nothing is operational about the federal exchanges right now.

And you have to question whether income verification would ever be operational, and if that’s contributing to the major delays on the exchange website...

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; debtceilingdeal; dnctalkingpoints; gopcaved; income; incomeverification; obamacare; verification
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To: commish

NO!!!

They don’t run on how they will fix it...

They need to repeal this tax, and restore the healthcare industry (in this country) back to before the Affordable Care Act (tax) was enacted...

Period...


41 posted on 10/17/2013 7:12:00 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: 11th_VA

42 posted on 10/17/2013 7:13:47 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: commish
The best thing Republicans can do know is leave Obamacare alone. Let it implode, let the people see what a disaster it is, and let them feel the pain.

Flashback to 1992: "The best thing Republicans can do now is let Bill Clinton get elected. That'll teach 'em."

Flashback to 2008: "The best thing Republicans can do now is let Barack Hussein Obama get elected. That'll teach 'em."

NO!

It is PAST TIME to fight back. PAST TIME.

And if the mousey Republicans won't do it, somebody else better.

43 posted on 10/17/2013 7:19:17 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: 11th_VA

Socialist playbook: When a socialist scheme blows up because the entire concept is an utter failure, that has failed everywhere it was tried, complain:

1) It was underfunded.
2) It was sabotaged.
3) It only works if it is universal, with no competition.
4) (total denial mode) It did work, and perfectly.


44 posted on 10/17/2013 7:46:12 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: caver

Next thing you know those crazy tea party wacko birds will want ID to vote!


45 posted on 10/17/2013 8:00:30 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: kevkrom

Passing the Vitter Amendment would have been more evil trickeration.

Instead the GOPe made sure their little underlings got subsidized.


46 posted on 10/17/2013 8:03:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Blackirish

Did he vote for cloture?


47 posted on 10/17/2013 8:09:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: Smokin' Joe
Why do you think parents are supposed to insure their kids into their mid twenties? (So the youth vote will remain unaware of the cost, etc.).

Exactly right. Youth will continue to vote for candidates and policies that make them "feel good" without having to bear the consequences of their vote.

48 posted on 10/17/2013 8:10:25 AM PDT by informavoracious (Of course I want people to have healthcare, I just didn't know I was the one who would be paying...)
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To: TurboZamboni

Somehow, in the twisted mind of the left, preventing fraud is a bad thing.


49 posted on 10/17/2013 8:10:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

1. I’m pretty sure that illegal immigrants are fine with the current system of not having health insurance and just going to the ER when needed (unless EMTLA has been repealed, which I’m pretty sure it has not been).
2. The “fat cats” typically have private insurance through work or that they contract on their own that will more than meet the ACA minimum.


50 posted on 10/17/2013 8:14:18 AM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: dfwgator; McGruff

51 posted on 10/17/2013 8:40:43 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: grania
So I think Rubio did the correct thing, and we have enough total turncoats to despise, so I'm willing to let Rubio learn from his missteps.

What Rubio did on immigration is unforgivable. He is a POS Fraud. I will never trust or support him again.

52 posted on 10/17/2013 10:03:33 AM PDT by sand88
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To: 11th_VA
“Things are worse behind the curtain than in front of it,”

For many with the propensity to want to fudge their income for a subsidy the reduced subsidy amount will be more than the first year penalty. Though not a real "poison pill" this could be the proverbial "straw".

53 posted on 10/17/2013 1:22:19 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: Vendome
Watch.

I think Obama will drop the individual mandate before Christmas.

54 posted on 10/17/2013 1:27:36 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: grania
Now Obama can't get away with saying he wasn't aware of the problems or blame anyone else.

Yep, I was worried that Obozo was going to rope in the RINOS and allow them to co-own Obozocare...but in his wisdom he now has it all to himself. What a moroon.

55 posted on 10/17/2013 1:33:58 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: 11th_VA
the income verification piece could trigger a new round of headaches for Obamacare, and this time, Republicans – and the country – will be paying attention.

"My stupid parents won't let me smoke pot and have underage sex. I hate them!"

56 posted on 10/17/2013 1:37:04 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: 11th_VA; a fool in paradise

57 posted on 10/17/2013 1:37:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: commish
The best thing Republicans can do know is leave Obamacare alone. Let it implode, let the people see what a disaster it is, and let them feel the pain.

To the extent that you are right, we should "leave it alone" but also:

- ridicule ObamaCare whenever possible,
- ridicule those who sign up for high ObamaCare premiums,
- ridicule those who give their personal information to an ObamaCare website with negligible security,
- ridicule those who give their personal information to an ObamaCare navigator with no background check,
- ridicule those in the industry of providing ObamaCare support, and
- ridicule those physicians corrupt or evil enough to accept ObamaCare policies.

We should spread every truthful story of ObamaCare corruption and ObamaCare fraud, every reason to worry about the website, the navigators, and the coverage, and every glitch and inconvenience that arises.

58 posted on 10/17/2013 3:20:29 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 11th_VA

It doesn’t matter. Any flaw in obamadeathcare will be blamed on republicans... I’ve actually had someone tell me that the flaws in the law are because the republicans wouldn’t let it be a single payer plan -parroting sebelius. “If only we had a single payer plan, everything would be rainbows and unicorns, but those republicans wouldn’t let it pass.” When I pointed out that the dems passed zerocare without a single vote and without being allowed to include a single amendment, they couldn’t respond. guess they needed to consult with kos to find out how to respond with democrat talking points.

Next, I had someone tell me during the slow-down that congress had voted for zerocare because they thought zero wouldn’t get reelected and now they were trying to stop it to make him look bad. (I know, they are such idiots!) But when I provided links to the congressional record which showed no r’s had voted for zerocare, they couldn’t respond.

Such total, complete morons.


59 posted on 10/19/2013 9:11:52 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: GreenAccord

“While it is unquestionable that Obama and his party TRULY own Obamacare, the implosion, if and when it occurs, will be owned by the Republicans, so sayeth the mainstream media and left-controlled websites. The low-information voter will believe as they are told, that the reason for all the Obamacare trouble is the result of X Y and Z that the Republicans have done to block implementation.”

Exactly. See my post 59.


60 posted on 10/19/2013 9:15:16 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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