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Obama wants a default.
me | 10/15/2013 | Zeneta

Posted on 10/15/2013 12:42:35 PM PDT by Zeneta

Step back for a moment and consider the political implications of a US govt default vs. 0bama's standing among the media and in turn, the low-info voters.

Consider that everything 0bama has ever done is always political. The advancement of his party and ideology of a state that "requires" people being told what is in their best interest.

There is absolutely NO RISK for 0bama (politically) to preside over a US default.

Do you think he is going to fold ?

Why should he ?

Do you think he actually cares about America ?

Do you think he cares about his "Legacy" ?

The media has his back.

This is the biggest opportunity to seize control, an opportunity that may never come around again.

The opportunity to send the entire global economy into turmoil. Send millions of people into the arms of the Government.

It is all about politics.


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To: Maelstorm

It’s not a conspiracy.

It’s politics.

The risks and rewards have certainly been considered.

You are aware that virtually everything this administration says about their political opponents is exactly what “they” are doing ?

They have been granted free reign by the media.


81 posted on 10/15/2013 3:23:00 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Arlis

Thank you.

It is clear to me that the window of opportunity to accelerate his/their agenda is right now.

The agenda starts with knocking the US down a peg or two.


82 posted on 10/15/2013 3:30:55 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

obama/soetoro is in a win-win situation and he knew it months ago in taking a

’ I will control the powers of the purse formerly held by the House or I`ll crash the economy and default and my dominant media will directly blame the GOP ‘.

Win - Win

His offer to the GOP was always all or nothing and the Stupid Party still doesn`t get it. It`s a Putsch.


83 posted on 10/15/2013 3:48:26 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Zeneta
THAT is scary logic, but entirely possible.
84 posted on 10/15/2013 3:57:57 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: Zeneta

The Constitution won’t matter THIS WEEK if Obama gets away with taking the power of the purse away from Congress over this debt ceiling issue.

He won’t need to wait for next year’s election returns. Votes do not matter anymore. We saw our last honest national election in 2008.

Obama will be an actual dictator if he tells the Treasury Secretary to default and refuses to pay the debt service.

Hell, he’s already acting as a dictator and we endure it willingly.


85 posted on 10/15/2013 4:23:23 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Defiant
Obama is making empty threats but hopes that people are too stupid to know that, and knows that the media won't report it. Boehner says "hold it men, he's not bluffing!"

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86 posted on 10/15/2013 4:55:25 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: txhurl

Virginia USED to be one of those states.

We’ve been conquered/purchased/infected by that alien nation on our northern border known as DC. And they are on the side of evil.


87 posted on 10/15/2013 4:57:09 PM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Arlis

As a long time VA resident myself, I recently sent Ken Cuccinelli an idea for an ad to advance his campaign.

All he needs to do is paint Terry McAuliffe as someone that wants to make Virginia more like Maryland.

This idea will resonate among all Virginians, both democrats and independents.

He needs to exploit the culture clash that exists.


88 posted on 10/15/2013 5:08:18 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

The media is no longer monolithic. Where is the conservative media? Where is Foxnews? They are blowing away the competition and MSNBC the Obama’s little Goebbel channel is not even in the same league. We’ve beaten them before and the method through which is was accomplished is well documented. The problem is we have a party leadership unwilling for some reason to invest the effort to truly defeat Obama and his minions. We beat them over and over again in Blue Wisconsin, we beat them all over the country in 2010, and 1994. Its a matter of political will nothing more. We need to stop fearing the media and start attacking them and their credibility every chance we get. Plus people like John McCain and Peter King need to be totally reduced to nonentities for their continued betrayal.


89 posted on 10/15/2013 6:28:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: Zeneta

Of course. Why else would the Democrats continue to spend money we don’t have and build up unsustainable levels of debt unless they plan to crash the economy in order to install a new form of government. This is a dream come true for them - the economy crashes and the media makes sure the Republicans get blamed - can’t get any better scenario for Obama.


90 posted on 10/15/2013 6:32:48 PM PDT by utford
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To: Zeneta

I spent a bit of time thinking about your idea but I think you miss the point that the GOP has nothing to lose too. If we get an accelerated nannystate we get more pain and more pain means greater chance of backlash. Its happening in France and the UK and they are not known for being right wing centers of power by any means. We don’t win by a slow and steady nanny state. We don’t win by making Obamacare’s implementation easy or just trying to count on it to fail. We need to stay on the offense and if the President doesn’t blink he will pay a price as will we all. The worst it could do is bring us closer to an outright rebellion and I’m not sure that is a bad thing anymore.


91 posted on 10/15/2013 6:33:57 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: Maelstorm

I agree.

And it makes no sense that the majority is losing out to any number of minority issues.

But we are.

The machine keeps moving.

It is surreal.


92 posted on 10/15/2013 6:34:13 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Maelstorm

To be clear, I never suggested that the GOP has NOTHING to lose.

I have stated that 0bama has NOTHING TO LOSE.


93 posted on 10/15/2013 6:37:07 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Maelstorm

The media is no longer monolithic


Agree.

Kinda,

It is actually the culture that is monolithic.

It doesn’t matter what anybody on FOX says.

If it’s on Fox, it doesn’t count.


94 posted on 10/15/2013 6:45:36 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: central_va
"Actually all the federal interest is paid automatically, so it would require someone to stop it. This is all hype, even O’Bastard isn’t that crazy. Not buying the scare tactics. Call his bluff. This is poker not chess."

Rove is out repeating the same default meme. What you have is the "Establishment"--Republicans, Democrats, corporate moochers and their lobbyists, and other special interests--who have a vested interested in the status quo DC has been operating under for the past 20 or more years.

95 posted on 10/15/2013 6:47:08 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Zeneta

Yes - and emphasize that McAuliffe wants to take away our gun rights - as VA is one of the best states on its gun laws - open carry, etc.


96 posted on 10/15/2013 7:04:44 PM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Zeneta

The role of the States in all of this is being ignored. Everybody is making this sound like “little guy versus federal behemoth” but the States will come into play sooner rather than later, I believe.


97 posted on 10/15/2013 7:36:39 PM PDT by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: DNME

To be clear, secession is and has been the only out.

But not until a state creates it’s own currency will it make any difference.

Texas or North Dakota could begin to issue their own currency based on Oil.

Until then, we will be at the mercy of the FED and its printing press. This administrations unstoppable need to spend more money in order to “provide” for the needy.


98 posted on 10/15/2013 7:48:40 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: tanknetter; central_va; Venturer

How many troops did it take, and how fast, to lock down Boston?

And you don’t have to work hard to impose your will on a population of sheep, like there was in Boston. They willingly accepted troops on the street, and stormtroopers in their homes.

You just have to tell them that “Those Evil Racist Teabaggers” are nearby, and they’ll turn in their neighbors for EBT cards that work.


99 posted on 10/15/2013 8:27:26 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: DuncanWaring
Do you think he cares about his "Legacy" ?

Yeah....High Speed trains.....Mussolini made the trains run on time

Electric cars for the people.....Hitler won big with the new "peoples car"

Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot destroyed their respective middle classes.

100 posted on 10/15/2013 8:42:30 PM PDT by spokeshave (While Zero plays silly card games like Spades - Putin plays for keeps.)
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