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1 posted on 10/15/2013 4:21:25 AM PDT by grundle
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Now if only the libs would figure out it has nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with government control.


2 posted on 10/15/2013 4:28:29 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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He is wrong about the Republicans being unpopular, that is just what they want to believe

People are poed at the RINOS, because no one is standing up for what the American people (not the ones feeding at the trough) want


3 posted on 10/15/2013 4:30:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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He thinks conservatives will be happy about this article? Liberals are sooooo out of touch.


4 posted on 10/15/2013 4:32:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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This isn't about politics. A lot of liberals will be angry over this post. A lot of conservatives will be happy about it. But it's important to see the Affordable Care Act as something more than a pawn in the political wars: It's a real law that real people are desperately, nervously, urgently trying to access. And so far, the Obama administration has failed them.

In more ways than can be counted!

The Affordable Care Act has nothing to do with health care - IT IS ABOUT CONTROL!!!!

5 posted on 10/15/2013 4:34:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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If Republicans had simply passed a clean-CR on Oct. 1 these last few weeks would've been nothing -- nothing at all -- save for coverage of the health-care law's disaster.

Oh, horse feathers!

Even in your scenario, the MSM will find some way to blame Republicans.

6 posted on 10/15/2013 4:39:07 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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What didn't the White House know and when didn't they know it?

..Odungo was warned by a rat senator six months ago that the program was not ready...but the petulant little boy king stomped his delicate little foot in a juvenile fit and insisted that it go on line

7 posted on 10/15/2013 4:39:17 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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This isn't about politics.

Again, HORSE FEATHERS !

This is about nothing BUT politics.

8 posted on 10/15/2013 4:40:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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If Republicans had simply passed a clean-CR on Oct. 1 these last few weeks would've been nothing -- nothing at all -- save for coverage of the health-care law's disaster.

If the Republicans had let this roll over them, who would the media blame for the train wreck? Who would voters credit with at least trying to avoid the train wreck?

Now there can't be any question as to how the Republicans stand on the ACA. The inflated insurance bills, increased insurance deductibles, diminishing work hours and shrinking paychecks are only beginning to empty Joe Sixpack's wallet. By the time this hits top speed -- January 15th 2014 or so -- today's gov't shutdown will just be a vague memory.

9 posted on 10/15/2013 4:43:10 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Democrats in the house & senate...
Are there none who will put country before party?
I keep hoping some will stand up & denounce what is happening to our country.


10 posted on 10/15/2013 4:45:16 AM PDT by FES0844
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This is incorrect...”real people are desperately, nervously, urgently trying to access”. These idiots are soooo delusional.


15 posted on 10/15/2013 4:54:28 AM PDT by albie
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“If Republicans had simply passed a clean-CR on Oct. 1 these last few weeks would’ve been nothing — nothing at all — save for coverage of the health-care law’s disaster. Instead the law has been knocked off the front page by coverage of the Republican Party’s disaster”.

No, the press would have done everything in its power to hide the failure of Obamacare. It would have received the same MSM coverage as the Million Vet March and other goings-on this weekend in D.C.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 4:57:34 AM PDT by Rockhound (My dog ate my tagline)
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The Republican party did not shut down the government. The House sent appropriations bills to the senate and the senate shut down the government along with you-know-who.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 4:59:57 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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He’s also wrong about the Republicans shutting down the govt.
The House passed the funding bills, the Dems in the Senate sat on them.


18 posted on 10/15/2013 5:01:31 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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The Liberals were one of the head cheerleaders for obamacare. They wanted it, now they got it. Let them enjoy it.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 5:02:35 AM PDT by sport
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I don’t understand. The pull line here is: If the GOP didn’t do everything in their power to stop the garbage ACA from becoming entrenched into our society, then everyone would know how crappy the law was? This is how DC people think? The real world does not work like this. Bad ideas are stopped before they become “go forward” plans. The real issue is the corruptio of the meadia...who are supposed to inform the public of the problems with the ACA and then explain why the GOP feels so passionately about stopping it. If anyone is to blame for the mess were in, it’s the media....after President Obama. Everyone is just so self absorbed with the story, no one has a freakin’ clue!!!

This econmy is going to collapse due to poorly run programs like Obamacare which will never add up. Social Security, Welfare, and Medicare don’t add up either. For some reason, stating this blatently obvious fact is some how ‘arson’ or ‘terrorism?’ The world has gone freakin’ crazy.

Obama will probably end up with another trillion in debt cap relief and 13 months from now he’ll want another trillion. At that time, the Tea Party folks will once again say, “Shouldn’t we maybe try to get a handle on tis spending?” and, once again, Obama will call us arsonist and the media will call us extreme and out of touch!

Here’s the real fact, the TEA party is not going to get smaller and fade away. It’s going to get bigger and more influential. It won’t be because of some big political conversion, either. It’ll be because the math simply demands that this will happen.


21 posted on 10/15/2013 5:11:50 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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Actually it is a pretend law that required extra-Constitutional activities to implement. The law was passed without reading it, bribes were used to pass it, and special considerations were given to certain states who were waffling. Some religions and Unions were exempted.

The SCOTUS violated the "origination" concept of the creation of taxes - taxes can only originate in the House. But, in this case, it came to the SCOTUS as a mandate to purchase a product or service and SCOTUS tortuously morphed it into a tax.

Then, after the President signed it, he changed some sections, refused to enforce some sections, and delayed some sections - all in violation of the law itself, and breaking other laws and Constitutional processes. It is not even the same law Roberts ruled on, it has change so much.

It is not the Law of the Land, it is a Law of Won Man.

The nation is going through the puking, shakes, sweating, and convulsions of Hopium withdrawal. Let's detox the country of this dangerous social drug. Let the healing begin before a second Civil War starts.

Where is the second fight in front of SCOTUS? If we are stuck with this law for 3 more years, there won't be a country left to save. We can't wait in hopes of a Republican President - we need to act NOW.

22 posted on 10/15/2013 5:13:58 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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For some reason the system is enrolling, unenrolling, enrolling again, and so forth the same person. This has been going on for a few days for many of the enrollments being sent to the health plans. It has got on to the point that the health plans worry some of these very few enrollments really don’t exist.

So the 50K enrollments touted by the regime, which is a pathetic number to begin with, might actually be 50K enrollments and 49K of un-enrollments.

23 posted on 10/15/2013 5:24:30 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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Where is the Master of the Obvious picture?

As for the Republicans, if the GOPe had not been curled up under their desks in a fetal position trying to figure out how to surrender, and instead had been shouting from the mountain tops “See, we were right!”, they could have swung public opinion.


24 posted on 10/15/2013 5:30:24 AM PDT by magellan
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From the article and, apparently, from some other alternate universe inhabited by wishful thinking libs:

"Instead, Republicans managed to make themselves so unpopular that they've actually made the law more popular. Many Americans believe, reasonably but wrongly, that the reason Obamacare isn't working is that the Republicans shut the government down. And if the Affordable Care Act does begin to improve in the coming weeks Republicans will have lost their chance to harm it."

I've done a lot of reading about the Obamacare rollout including Twitter and Facebook comments and I have yet to see anyone blaming the Republicans for the problems. Of course I don't read anything spoken or written by Pelosi so I could have missed it.

26 posted on 10/15/2013 5:56:30 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (e)
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There are no millions waiting to sign up.

Just like there weren’t for the chronic expensive health conditions exchanges that were supposed to solve the world’s problems two years ago.

They shut those exchanges down. They’ll have to shut these down too.


34 posted on 10/15/2013 7:05:47 AM PDT by GEC (We're not drilling in ANWR because...)
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