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Potential Senate Deal Would Fund US to Jan. 15, Raise Ceiling Through Feb. 15
ABC News ^ | 10-14-13 | Mary Bruce,Ed Delaney

Posted on 10/14/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: tcrlaf

And whot the hell is going to force the income verification, or verify that it is accurate? This is stupid.


21 posted on 10/14/2013 2:26:58 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: ConservativeMan55

Getting rid of the medical device tax helps lots of dem senators, including Reid.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 2:27:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: what's up

“This part of the deal anyway is not the GOP falling on its sword; this is the Dems admitting they were wrong.”

Nice try, but you KNOW it won’t be spun that way by the media, right?


23 posted on 10/14/2013 2:27:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf
Basically sequestration goes forward with a new round in cuts in growth in Jan '14. That basically remains the same, then, even though Dems don't like it.

There is a rollback in an Obamacare tax.

And talks continue into an election year...which Reid et al did not want.

24 posted on 10/14/2013 2:28:43 PM PDT by what's up
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To: tcrlaf

Unacceptable —

Why not make the 15% nonessential part of government permanent, subtract that from the budget, and then there won’t be any need to raise the debt limit.


25 posted on 10/14/2013 2:29:36 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: tcrlaf
Nice try, but you KNOW it won’t be spun that way by the media, right?

Of course...they are perpetual liars.

But that doesn't mean the truth didn't happen.

26 posted on 10/14/2013 2:29:48 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

It appears sequester in place for a couple of months. A short delay on med rev tax and budget negotiations which Cruz and the house have blocked. Basically total copitulation. No other way of reading. No delays in Obamacare, no long term spending cuts and no upper hand in budget negotiations where we are 70 billion apart in numbers but way off in priorities. Also polling in the toilet. How else do you spin this?


27 posted on 10/14/2013 2:37:52 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: dan on the right
As long as we keep sequestration level spending, it is not the worst thing in the world.

Ditto Dan !!! This is far from over .. let's let the population get worked up over Obamacare and then ride THAT issue.

The Tea Party was NOT WRONG, they were just ahead of the curve. Let the working Joe's who don't get into politics get thru Open Seanson first ... then you will see a tidal change ..

28 posted on 10/14/2013 2:37:52 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: tcrlaf

Sure looks like doormat RINOS Boehner and McConnell are a-fixin’ to cave in AGAIN to the Obama-Reid Regime.


29 posted on 10/14/2013 2:42:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: tcrlaf

time to get on the phones to the usual GOPe suspects:

especially the turncoat ayotte. you know: mcconnell, cornyn, corker, collins, murky, alexander, etc., etc.


30 posted on 10/14/2013 2:42:49 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

GOP listen up! Jimmy Stewart explains the sequester, the shutdown and the looming debt limit “disaster”... “we’re panicking and he’s not”.

http://youtu.be/lbwjS9iJ2Sw?t=4m27s


31 posted on 10/14/2013 2:45:53 PM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: tcrlaf

I guess they leak the story out early to see if we will accept the cave in deals they come up with (to see if any of it will “stick”).

The BBC World News editor Mark Mardell spoke a few minutes ago on air of the GOP needing something in the deal to “save face”.

In other words Boehner and his team need something to look good and I don’t think there’s anything good about caving into Obama.


32 posted on 10/14/2013 2:46:01 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: dadfly

Regardless of the deal, this exercise did a lot to clarify who is against Obamacare and who wants to go along to get along. So when Obamacare crashes and burns, you will know who was right.


33 posted on 10/14/2013 2:46:32 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: 11th_VA

The Republicans want to use anger over Obamacare to keep on electing RINO’s who won’t get rid of it after they get elected anyway.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 2:47:16 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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In other words Boehner and his team need something to look good

Nothing they do will "look good" to these people. They will NEVER vote for them anyway.

35 posted on 10/14/2013 2:47:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

“I like combining all of our leverage, which is sequester and the debt limit.”- Paul Ryan to National Review, October 2nd, 2013.

Where in the world to Paul Ryan get the idea that the GOP would have any leverage on the debt ceiling? We have had a successful govt. shutdown for 2 weeks, which will only come to an end, because going past the debt ceiling date is being heralded as armageddon? Republicans are caving, not because they want to end the shutdown, but because they are so scared that the global economy will collapse if they don’t raise the debt ceiling. Yet, Paul Ryan believed the GOP had leverage with the debt ceiling. What an idiot.


36 posted on 10/14/2013 2:49:37 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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Flipping dials to get feel from all sides, came across Gloria Borger on CNN, they just released the latest poll from ABC/WASHPOST

Poll had blame this way...

74% Rep
61% Dems

I don’t buy the science of political polling, but nevertheless I thought that was pretty good for R, seeing the source

Gloria Borger needs to learn to count, she said 20 points difference there???

Gloria it`s only 13 points difference


37 posted on 10/14/2013 2:55:29 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: tcrlaf

Bernie Sanders -I—VT- calls members of House of Representatives “right wing extremists”-
WCAX tv Burlington VT broadcast now but nothing on their website wcax.com


38 posted on 10/14/2013 2:57:11 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.)))
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To: chopperjc
It appears sequester in place for a couple of months.

I'm not sure where you get that from. The sequester cuts in growth for '14 are going to go forward. Cuts will be made in Jan. The Dems lost on this and cannot talk about spending for new programs; cuts in growth are doing the opposite of what they want.

A short delay on med rev tax

2 year delay and the tax will not be re-instituted again. Just like the Bush tax cuts. They were finally made permanent.

No delays in Obamacare

It was only going to be a delay in the mandate...no one was ever talking about delaying the whole of Obamacare.

And Obamacare is beginning to fall of its own accord although few realize it. Despite MSM rhetoric and lies we are winning.

39 posted on 10/14/2013 3:02:35 PM PDT by what's up
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To: tcrlaf
The House must push this until:

(a) the public sees Obamacare for what it is (this will take a few weeks, but only if the government is under the gun): and

(b) the public realizes that the sky will not fall (no default, life goes on).

Today's 'deal' destroys the progress to date and takes the pressure off. No one will want to hear from Ted Cruz and the Tea Party caucus again in January. It will be old news. The public will conclude that Cruz lost and Obama won.

What is the rationale, in the public's mind, for delaying only the House leverage but not Obamacare? There is only one reason and it is that Cruz lost the PR battle. It is then over; there is no rerun. We can't stop and then start again. The voters won't tolerate that.

In addition, the shutdown is hamstringing the immigration amnesty conspirators. Remove it and we'll see an immigration bill going through the House before Thanksgiving.

Today's 'deal' would pave the way for amnesty next month and single-payer healthcare before Obama's term ends.

Ted Cruz was right. The only time to stand against this monster is now.

40 posted on 10/14/2013 3:06:37 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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