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Carved in Stone—But Not Read or Studied
Townhall.com ^ | October 12, 2013 | Hank Adler

Posted on 10/12/2013 5:56:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

Nancy Pelosi made her most famous (infamous) quote immediately before Congress voted on Obamacare:

You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.

But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.

Within the past few weeks, the President orchestrated an arrangement with Treasury wherein Congress and its employees will now be permitted to have a subsidy (paid for by the taxpayers) for the purchase of their healthcare on the Obamacare exchanges. This has been explained as placing the Members of Congress and their employees in the same financial position with respect to their healthcare costs as they were before Obamacare. This explanation is generally accurate.

The irony of the necessity of Congress needing a backdoor correction (done by presidential action, not through Congressional action) to legislation passed by this same Congress should not be lost. This backdoor correction was required with respect to their own law.

The underlying and serious questions about the revised arrangement for Congress are far deeper than whether Congress needs to be financially protected from Obamacare or whether the change made to their program is a reasonable one. These deeper questions revolve around whether Congress is a responsible body. Is Congress focusing on the reason they were elected to office, namely governing?

Are individual Members of Congress spending sufficient amounts of time legislating (which we will define as studying, considering and understanding the legislative proposals presented to them?) Does the evidence support the argument that Congress was insufficiently informed or knowledgeable when the final Obamacare votes were taken?

Arguably, Obamacare is the most meaningful and historic legislation passed since social security. Yet, since its passage only three years ago, the President has unilaterally and perhaps without legal authority deferred the employer mandate, the Department of Health and Human Services has issued many hundreds of exemptions without any specific guidelines and perhaps without legal authority, and the initial state of the required individual mandate sign up process could only be called shambolic.

The interesting point is that as a body, Congress did not understand how their own legislation impacted themselves. The message is daunting because if they gave no thought as to how it impacted them, one must logically conclude that there was no higher level of due diligence with respect to the rest of the bill or perhaps, all bills presented to Congress for approval.

Consider how we react to any rules changes that impact our lives. If our company changes the dress code in the office or the plant, our first thought is how this will impact us. Perhaps, after considering how the change impacts us, we then consider how the change impacts our employer. It is no different in any element of our lives, be it rules at the local gym or park, speed limits on local streets or Obamacare, there is initially the WIFM question. What’s in it for me?

It is likely a safe bet that not a single Member of Congress was sufficiently interested in anything except the overall national politics of Obamacare to carefully consider the impacts to themselves of the inclusion of a Congressional mandate.

On this subject of due diligence, we, the citizens, should understand whether anyone in Congress realized (regardless of legality) that the President could defer specific crucial dates in the legislation without Congressional approval or whether the Department of Health and Human Services could, without guidelines or specificity of law, approve waivers and exemptions to Obamacare. If the answer is no, we need to understand why this should be acceptable to us.

Congressional favorability is in single figures and the President’s favorability appears to be in freefall. Regardless of the political falderal that is accompanying the discussions about the budget / debt limit and whether the Republicans can or should tie these issues to changes to Obamacare, there is an issue in the current Obamacare debate that the citizens need to fully understand. That issue is that our elected Congress is not doing a competent job of legislating. Obamacare merely highlights this failure.

The primary issue for our next election is not Obamacare or some international issue. The issue is whether our elected members of Congress are doing their jobs or whether, to be kind, they are just phoning it in.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; membersofcongress; nancypelosi

1 posted on 10/12/2013 5:56:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Read it?

The Tyrant, his family, the tyrannical Congress and
their families, and all their Staff
(choices to them, of course) are not even under it.


2 posted on 10/12/2013 6:00:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

[obamacare] == [robot doctors]


3 posted on 10/12/2013 6:00:41 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Kaslin
Laws, whether written or unwritten, whether read or unread, whether studied or not, don't matter.

It's all about the Power. The civil servants are now civil masters, and we are peasants, and the Grand Canyon is closed.

People think we have a Constitution. We don't.

4 posted on 10/12/2013 6:07:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Kaslin

Nancy you crazy eyed biatch does obomacare cover gunshot wounds caused by the second amendment?


5 posted on 10/12/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Kaslin
Yet, since its passage only three years ago, the President has unilaterally and perhaps without legal authority deferred the employer mandate, the Department of Health and Human Services has issued many hundreds of exemptions without any specific guidelines and perhaps without legal authority, and the initial state of the required individual mandate sign up process could only be called shambolic.

If the Republicans can't make a campaign slogan from this...oh, wait, never mind.

But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy...It is likely a safe bet that not a single Member of Congress was sufficiently interested in anything except the overall national politics of Obamacare to carefully consider the impacts to themselves of the inclusion of a Congressional mandate.

Treachery.

6 posted on 10/12/2013 6:24:08 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Sorry, the GOP lost the point when it willingly allowed Dumbo to re-write the law in their favor....No complaints about separation of powers, no complaints (and I’m not talking the mealy mouthed ‘let’s bring up a bill or send a harshly worded letter’) about special preferences.

No, they could have energized the base and brought over some Dems/Ind by declaring, day after day, ‘We will NOT allow, approve nor accept any privileges or exemptions to a law passed upon the Citizens of these United States’

Yeah, I’m dreaming. I know.


7 posted on 10/12/2013 7:05:24 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Kaslin
Carved in Stone—But Not Read or Studied

Like the Ten Commandments.

8 posted on 10/12/2013 10:13:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Kaslin

Where do you get the idea it was “carved in stone”? It was
passed in the dark of night through durty dealing by RINO
republicans: It was declared consitutional by Justice
Roberts after he changed the meaning of a word or two and
a phone call from big “O”.


9 posted on 10/12/2013 3:34:28 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: i_robot73
Stop blaming the GOP. You know damn well that we only have the House and without having the Senate we are helpless.

Are you going to help us capturing the majority of the Senate back and increase our majority in the House, or are you just continue your finger pointing?

10 posted on 10/12/2013 3:46:55 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Diogenesis

naturally


11 posted on 10/12/2013 3:47:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: upcountryhorseman
<<<< Where do you get the idea it was “carved in stone”? It was passed in the dark of night through durty dealing by RINO republicans: It was declared consitutional by Justice Roberts after he changed the meaning of a word or two and a phone call from big “O”. >>>>

Hey, do you see the date after the link, and the name Hank Adler after the date? That is the name of the author, I only copied the article and posted it.

Now I am going to ask you where are you getting the idea that the bill was passed in the dark of the night by Republicans. For your information not one Republican voted for the bill. Neither in the House, nor in the Senate. It was pushed down our throat. So get your facts straight.

Last but not least: Learn to spell constitutional and dirty. You are an embarrassment to our side.

12 posted on 10/12/2013 4:08:08 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

ONLY the House? Hummm, that means the origination point of ANY and ALL SPENDING.

There does NOT have to be ANY capitulation, no ‘compromise’. Pass a damn budget with ZERO increase (’cuz the early 2000’s were SO terrible @ 400B deficit /s)

Now, as to blame....what have the GOP done to reduce the size of gov’t?? I place blame where blame is due. All I’ve seen are the bailouts, amnesty talk, No Child Left Behind, Medicare expansion and allowing the Executive branch to walk ALL over ‘em


13 posted on 10/13/2013 1:03:36 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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