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To: originalbuckeye

They sure don’t use means testing when applying the taxes to our paychecks. If this story is true, it sounds like they’re getting it backwards again—are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?


8 posted on 10/09/2013 10:19:09 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
They sure don’t use means testing when applying the taxes to our paychecks.

Sure they do - only the first $113K gets taxed.

24 posted on 10/09/2013 10:24:21 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: seanmerc

If this story is true, it sounds like they’re getting it backwards again—are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?


Remember the Chrysler bondholders?


30 posted on 10/09/2013 10:26:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: seanmerc

Yes, because everyone who can find a green card or a leg injury can suck out SSI....again, wealth re-distribution and no adjustment to the age since 1934.

I have over $150K contributed already (I’m 44). It’s done.

If I know I’m not getting any, why pay into it?


48 posted on 10/09/2013 10:32:35 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: seanmerc

“are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?”

Yup.

Since there are too few producers, and too many takers, Fedzilla (Ryan et al.) want to punish the producers in order to reward the takers.

That’s going to be a real incentive to work, huh?


66 posted on 10/09/2013 10:44:06 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: seanmerc
They sure don’t use means testing when applying the taxes to our paychecks.

Of course they do, it's called a tax bracket.

98 posted on 10/09/2013 11:16:24 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: seanmerc

Let’s apply “Truth in Advertising” to the term “means testing.”

Means testing is nothing short of massive generational long robbery. Approved by the Government for the benefit of the Government. The means testing will occur after the fact not before. And it will occur near the retirement of the people the Government is robbing. The victims of the robbery are supposed to be thankful that they are being allowed to keep their saving.

IMHO 401Ks and other such programs will be looted by the Government long before the individuals reach retirement age. Don’t think is going to happen? Got news for you folks it is already happening in Europe - what makes you think it is going to stop at the water’s edge?

The BLUF is any social security program can not survive more than one generation after its inception. In the 1930’s the average life expectancy was the late 60’s - a few years after you became eligible for social security. A majority of the early payees didn’t reach 65. Now, almost three generations after it was established the average life expectancy is in the mid to late 70’s with a significant number of payees reaching their 90s. Plus, SS is paying for a lot more then just retirement. So, the supporting infrastructure - aka TAXES - for SS can not support its payments. What’s a Government to do?


103 posted on 10/09/2013 11:23:30 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: seanmerc

“are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?”

You betcha.


108 posted on 10/09/2013 11:29:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: seanmerc
are they going to penalize people who have actually saved for their retirements and reward people who haven’t?

OF COURSE! That's the federal government way.

The government rewards those who: drop out of school, don't work, have babies out of wedlock, don't pay their mortgages, on and on. The government penalizes (taxes) you for working hard and saving your money.

147 posted on 10/09/2013 2:15:31 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time ever I am not proud of my country.)
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