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Obama sold voters bill of goods on health care
SFGate.com ^ | 10/7/13 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 10/08/2013 9:44:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

As a candidate for president, Barack Obama sold his signature universal health care plan with the promise that it would "cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."

Now that the Affordable Care Act exchanges are open for business, voters are finding that the biggest problem with Obamacare isn't that some Web sites crashed last week but that the Obama promise of big savings for the average family was too good to be true.

Now that the exchanges are open for business, people who already have individual coverage have something new to not like: sticker shock. The Affordable Care Act isn't affordable after all.

Last week, I began hearing from readers whose individual policy premiums are going up, not down. A local architect sent me a notice he received from Kaiser informing him that his individual coverage will increase by $199.95 per month, or 78.9 percent. When he added his two sons, the percentage increase was even greater.

A freelance journalist told me she made $98,000 last year. But she and her retired husband, both 51, wouldn't pay $7,200 in premiums for high-deductible coverage. It's cheaper to pay the fine, she said. Besides, she added, "we're healthy."

A reader writes that her premiums will rise considerably, and she doesn't think she qualifies for a subsidy.

It is becoming increasingly clear that while poor working families will have access to their own health care policies at affordable rates - affordable, because they are subsidized - middle-class and affluent people stand to pay more. Forget that $2,500 savings.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: billofgoods; deceit; healthcare; miserablefailure; obama; obamacare; obamahealthcare; snakeoil; sold; voters
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To: NormsRevenge

Even now, if you mention this is happening, yiu are “CRAZY!!, “NUTZ!!”, one of THOSE people!”, “insane!”, or a “FAUX NEWS ZOMBIE!”.

People do not understand how this is going to affect them, or how much it is going to cost them. Last night, someone told me I was stupid for being against “Free Healthcare”.


41 posted on 10/08/2013 10:13:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who exactly will buy it? Rich and elderly people won’t. Tax payers pay for the poor, Obama, government workers, Congress and wavered friends of Obama. Young people can’t afford it. Unions don’t want it. Corporations won’t pay for it by cutting hours or firing people.

So that leaves middle class working families. Thank you guys for financing this whole fiasco.


42 posted on 10/08/2013 10:15:32 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: alloysteel

At least the Mexicans are smart enough to know when to leave...................


43 posted on 10/08/2013 10:17:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: tcrlaf

I hope you told them: TANSTAAFL.................


44 posted on 10/08/2013 10:17:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: NormsRevenge

At least with obamacare womyn can finally kill their children anytime and anywhere (and soon at any age as well). And the sandra flukeies of the world can scroo all day and all night on your dime...hot dog!

So what if brings the economy to its knees? It’s all for the chillren anyway...


45 posted on 10/08/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Sounds like Germany in the early thirties to me.

Yup! Make the average citizens more poor and get lesser health care. By the time King Obama is done there will only the poor class and the rich class. The poor will be the slaves and the rich crapping on us.

46 posted on 10/08/2013 10:20:06 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: NormsRevenge
Obama sold voters bill of goods on health care

YA THINK??!!??

And they are going seriously batshit! On the one hand, the progressives think they have victory in the bag. On the other hand there's this, shown below.
I was going to post a vanity about emails that are probably very effective with idiots and government public employees, but totally ineffective towards anyone with a brain.

Behold the DSCC email. Although I registered as a Democrat in 1960 for my first election, I have not voted (D) since. Nor have I EVER signed up as "... you are a part of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee’s grassroots network."
These bastards lie about everything!

Here is part of the email contents requesting money "to defeat the nasty Tea party Traitors" :
...Democrats must defeat 17 Republicans to take back the House -- and new post-shutdown polls from PPP show Republicans trailing in 17 key races... ...because you are a part of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee’s grassroots network. The DSCC is the only organization solely committed to supporting Democrats in the Senate. We greatly appreciate your continued support and participation – it’s absolutely critical if we’re going to stop a Republican Senate takeover.

They "greatly appreciate" my continued support, which I have never given. It will be a cold day in hell... yet there you have it.

I will send contributions to the GOP senate candidates who are "in trouble," according to the Hussein propaganda machine.

The Morons' propaganda does serve a useful purpose.

One last point in this minirant...
The GOP propaganda and PT Barnum bullshit* is just as bad.
Grassroots-something-or-other is using the same tactics. soliciting names for phony "petitions" while actually mining for names, email addresses, phone numbers, social security numbers, bank accounts and licenses of dogs owned. OK. Maybe some of that last part is political hyperbole on my part.

Educate me; inform me; let me know what the enemy of the Republic are doing.

But don't try to fleece me and treat me as an idiot.
I am perfectly equipped to decide when, where and to whom I WANT to contribute, having facts, not bullshit* at hand.

*Bullshit

47 posted on 10/08/2013 10:21:01 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Logical me

Far more sinister than that would be my guess.


48 posted on 10/08/2013 10:23:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Phillyred

They ought to be embarassed that it took getting to this point for them to finally understand, considering that we cretins on the right understood it right away. They were so willfully blinded by the hopey changey pixie dust.


49 posted on 10/08/2013 10:24:33 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Tzimisce
For 3 1/2 years all my liberal friends have been laughing at me, talking down to me and lecturing me about the goodness and joys of Obamacare.

I never use the words "liberal" and "friends" in the same sentence.

50 posted on 10/08/2013 10:27:24 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bushel baskets and wheelbarrows of dollar bills to buy a loaf of bread, milk, beer..

Only one thing wrong with that, Norm. With incomes stagnant and/or droppping, where are we gonna get the bushel baskets and wheelbarrows of dollar bills?

51 posted on 10/08/2013 10:32:16 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with POLITICIANS is the true war on terror)
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To: NormsRevenge

American people wanted to hear Obama’s lies about something for nothing health care. American people have gotten weak, greedy and stupid. Greedy as in “free health care”....Oh yeah the rich will be taxed to pay for it.

Not true!!! The middle class will be taxed (via rip-off 0-Care rates) to pay for it. This is a wealth transfer from middle class to the poor and from white to the black/Hispanic/illegal aliens/ other poor minorities (I am obviously generalizing)

Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
(Tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)
Oh, no, no you can’t disguise
(You can’t disguise, no you can’t disguise)
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies


52 posted on 10/08/2013 10:32:17 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: NormsRevenge

WHAT??!!

Say ‘honest’!!


53 posted on 10/08/2013 10:35:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: nascarnation
I have no personal experience, but I really doubt that Medicaid is “gold plated” coverage.

Anything "free" might as well be gold-plated.
To the recipients!

54 posted on 10/08/2013 10:36:57 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: stanne

Right. Just read about a govt worker who was told he’ll get back pay if he signs up - has no real alternative as he has a family”””

Sounds like extortion to me. This guy needs a lawyer.


55 posted on 10/08/2013 10:48:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Tupelo

“Obama sold voters bill of goods on health care””””

Obama sold voters a bill of goods on OBAMA.


56 posted on 10/08/2013 10:49:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Tzimisce

You need to learn to say:

“I told you so” In about 8 different tones & dialects.


57 posted on 10/08/2013 10:51:07 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SVTCobra03

For 3 1/2 years all my liberal friends have been laughing at me,”””

YOU need new friends......

NOW


58 posted on 10/08/2013 10:53:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SMARTY
lol. Liberal screed: He lied to us! He lied to US! WHO DOES HE THINK WE ARE? FILTHY TEA-BAGGERS??

Notice toward the end of the article this broad blames 'Washington' for Obamacare? Not Dems in the Congress, not Obama but a generalized Washington.

They know that this is a Dem disaster from start to finish and still can't admit it to themselves.

59 posted on 10/08/2013 10:53:36 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)
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To: Tzimisce
For 3 1/2 years all my liberal friends have been laughing at me, talking down to me and lecturing me about the goodness and joys of Obamacare. Those people can now kiss my ass.

Don't lower yourself. Your ass has more knowledge, is more important than there heads. Another suggestion - get another group of friends.

60 posted on 10/08/2013 10:58:12 AM PDT by Digger
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