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Obama says expects Congress will raise debt ceiling before deadline
Reuters ^ | October 5, 2013 | Roberta Rampton

Posted on 10/05/2013 12:47:50 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said he does not expect to have to take any unusual steps to prevent the United States from defaulting on its debt because he believes Congress will raise the debt ceiling before a looming October 17 deadline.

"I don't expect to get there," Obama said in an interview with the Associated Press released on Saturday. "There were at least some quotes yesterday that (House of Representatives) Speaker (John) Boehner is willing to make sure that we don't default," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debtceiling; dictator; imperialpresident; obama; unconstitutional
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Why are this Admin. and Dem politicians and the MSM continuing to say we HAVE to raise the debt ceiling or the US will default on its debt? AFAIK, that’s a big lie.

Raising the debt ceiling just allows the US to BORROW more money, like increasing the limit on a credit card, so they can increase the amount of debt.

There is now more tax revenue being collected than ever before. From what I’ve read at various sources, that revenue is sufficient to service the debt and fund the entitlements and necessary functions of the US. Thus, keeping the debt ceiling where it is will NOT lead to a default.

If I’m wrong in my assessment, I welcome correction.


21 posted on 10/05/2013 2:21:33 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

Your assertions are more or less correct, except that you already know the answer to your rhetorical question.

The point is that the spending spree must continue - for it provides the path to power and fundamental transformation.


22 posted on 10/05/2013 2:25:45 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: octex

And, with all the new taxes kicking in with Orino Care, they should see a large increase in revenues.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 2:33:49 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Since there’s nothing being spent nor authorization to be spent, obviously there’s no pressing need to raise the debt limit. Thanks LucianOfSamasota.


24 posted on 10/05/2013 2:34:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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25 posted on 10/05/2013 2:35:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: chopperman

I didn’t know they passed a budget.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 2:37:45 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: TexasCajun
Well, it didn't take long to find support for my previous post:

Report: Boehner told group of House Republicans he’ll violate the Hastert Rule to raise the debt ceiling if necessary

27 posted on 10/05/2013 2:39:00 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: SunkenCiv; Gene Eric

Well it is high time to put Rand Paul’s feet to the fire about exactly what does he MEAN by being libertarian.

Some folks have gotten into the “Libertarian” fold thinking that not only can they be laissez-faire, but that they can nanny a relaxed moral world view into government, not grasping the essential contradiction here. There’s no need to lock oneself into the sin of homo pseudo marriage. Even if a state or states do it, that shouldn’t lasso Uncle Sam (in carrying out things that are quintessentially Uncle Sam, such as national defense) into doing it... respect for freedom of policy should go both ways!


28 posted on 10/05/2013 2:40:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

There is NO federal revenue or financial REQUIREMENT that without a raise in the federal debt limit the U.S. Tresury would have no choice but to default on any of the U.S. debt obligations comming due.

Any requirment to raise the federal debt limit, OR to avoid any need to raise the federal debt limit AND to not default on any U.S. debt obligations comming due IS mostly determined by federal spending, which (a) is adjustable in many ways and (b) is, unlike the U.S. debt, not a CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED federal government obligation.

By simply cutting federal spending by the amount of any perceived need for raising the debt limit there would be no need to immediatelty raise the federal debt limit, and whether or not there is any “budget agreement” that tells the treasury how to make up any shortfall, the Constitution gives the executive the authority and responsibility to make whatever spending cuts will offset that shortfall until there is a budget agreement; and with those cuts made, just like “sequester” did, for the treasury to just go ahead and AT LEAST pay any debt obligations coming due, no matter what else it does not pay right now.

What is being ignored in the whole public/media conversaation is tax rates and obligations on business and individuals are not “on hold” and MOST income based revenue to the federal government continues to flow into the treasury from whitholding taxes and business & self-employed individuals paying quarterly estimated taxes; as well as most other federal taxes and fees, which continue to get paid.

The “shutdown” is NOT as much a matter of revenue, as it is simply a budget allocation process deciding where it can be spent with regard to any change from where it is currently authorized to be spent. Sequester itself, is just another form of “automatic” spending cuts in the absence of a total annual federal budget agreement.

HOWEVER, constitutionally, if federal spending continues to cause a deficit that is higher than the current authorized federal debt limit will allow, the treasury, under the executive’s responsibility and authority can make additional “sequester like” cuts and still pay the only constitutionally mandated expense that MUST be paid - the debt obligations that come due.


29 posted on 10/05/2013 3:20:21 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Typical caving in in 3, 2, ...


30 posted on 10/05/2013 3:32:08 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
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31 posted on 10/05/2013 3:52:29 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I could sure use an extra week of paid vacation.

I can’t even retire now because of the uncertainty of this nation.


32 posted on 10/05/2013 6:06:32 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (REMOVE ALL EXEMPTIONS, EXCEPTIONS, AND WAIVERS TO OBAMACARE)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Rand will express his support for amnesty when he believes it’s politically safe to do so. He’s liberal on this issue.

It’s the liberal’s view shared by many so-called conservatives to grant various forms of relief to the illegal aliens. A true conservative would reliably advance forms of return and attrition.

Neither statism nor libertarianism are direct factors on the immigration front in my opinion notwithstanding the liberal tenets of the LP platform.


33 posted on 10/05/2013 7:07:06 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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