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School Tells Cop Scott Urkov Not To Wear Gun, Uniform When Picking Up Daughter
Opposing Views ^ | 10/03/2013 | By Jonathan Vankin

Posted on 10/03/2013 1:03:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

While school districts around the country, in wake of the numerous school shootings that have plagued the United States in recent years, have debated whether to have armed guards on school grounds, one school in Arizona recently told a police officer to leave his gun at home — and for that matter, his uniform as well — when he picks up his daughter.

Scott Urkov got a call from the principal of Entz Elementary School in Mesa, Arizona, after he showed up at the school in his full police uniform including his sidearm.

The cop immediately took to Facebook to express his disbelief.

"Nothing like your kids school calling and asking if I could not come to pick up my daughter in uniform cause parents were concerned when their kids came home telling them there was a man at school with a gun. Are you freaking kidding me?" he posted.

The sight of an armed man — even a fully uniformed police officer — with a handgun on the school grounds was apparently too much for some parents.

"There were some parents who were concerned about that fact that there was a fully armed officer on campus and they spoke to the principal about it," said school spokesperson Helen Hollands.

But not all parents were alarmed. Some told a local Fox TV station that an armed officer on campus was a good thing.

"Even if my kids saw that I think they'd feel more protected to see a man in uniform at their school," sais one parent, Blaine Spencer.

The school has apologized, saying that they didn’t realize that Urkov (pictured) would take the phone call as an affront and now wants to turn the misunderstanding into a “teachable moment.” Urkov has bee invited to speak at the school in his full uniform to explain to kids what police officers do.

As for Urkov himself, he told the Fox reporter that his department advised him “just to let it be,” without further comment.

SOURCES: My Fox Phoenix, Police One

 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; education; guncontrol; hoplophobia; liberalism; liberals; progressives; publicschools; secondamendment
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To: Responsibility2nd

At least they backed off. How many of these incidents go unpublished and fester among the population?


21 posted on 10/03/2013 1:18:35 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: driftdiver

IIRC there are jurisdictions where a law enforcement officer is requied by law and or regulation to carry a firearm at all times in public places and aboard public transportation, under the theory that police officers are never entirely free of their duty in their jurisdiction.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 1:23:15 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like the school really wants to make up for this faux paux, but (with a principal like this one) I can’t blame the police department for saying, no more on this, let’s move on.


23 posted on 10/03/2013 1:23:26 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Responsibility2nd

As they are conditioning these young kids to hate guns, they are conditioning them to concentrate on sex. I’m beginning to think that the NEA has a very high ratio of perverts that want unarmed victims....


24 posted on 10/03/2013 1:24:33 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The principal of Entz Elementary School should be fired. No discussion, just fire him/her/it.

There needs to be a public policy of zero tolerance for incompetence and complete lack of common sense in our educational system.

Fire the damn principal or defund the school.... apologies be damned.


25 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:18 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: thorvaldr; Responsibility2nd

As a CA CCW holder I can carry at a school. Go figure.


26 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:21 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t believe they have the right to ask this of the officer. I’d show up in it for spite.


27 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:36 PM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Last month on a trip out west I had a Brit in-law almost freak out when he saw a Park Ranger with a sidearm. He was seriously concerned when he saw one with a gun at Yellowstone. I had to explain to him about (1) dangerous four-legged critters and (2) dangerous two-legged critters.


28 posted on 10/03/2013 1:25:44 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: ontap

Thank heaven “brilliant in their field” is a very loosely interpreted, highly, subjective opinion. America’s ranking in math and science is pretty damning evidence. Fortunately, they don’t require tests on any government form other than communism to keep teaching credentials.


29 posted on 10/03/2013 1:27:15 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: WhiskeyX

Yes I know.

Honestly I don’t care. If they are not on duty they shouldn’t be allowed to do anything every other law abiding person can’t do.

period

the point isn’t increasing controls on cops, but decreasing controls on everyone else.


30 posted on 10/03/2013 1:27:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So if an incident happens at the school and the police are called, should they go home and change clothes first before they respond? (Without their gun obviously!)


31 posted on 10/03/2013 1:30:28 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Responsibility2nd
he showed up at the school in his full police uniform including his sidearm.

I really don't see what the problem would be unless they had a dog as a school mascot.

32 posted on 10/03/2013 1:31:33 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Let your 'Yes' mean 'Yes,' and your 'No' mean 'No.' Matthew 5:37)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m sure it was liberal parents that were shocked by this site.

Idiots


33 posted on 10/03/2013 1:32:11 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: driftdiver; WhiskeyX

“If they are not on duty they shouldn’t be allowed to do anything every other law abiding person can’t do.”

Agree.

Thing is, in their jurisdiction they are never off-duty. If a crime happens in their view they have an obligation to act. As a civilian you have no such obligation.


34 posted on 10/03/2013 1:32:26 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: thorvaldr
"On the other side you have jack booted government thug who thinks that the rules that apply to me OBVIOUSLY don’t apply to him."

Wow...you inferred all that from a 250-300 word article? Man, you must be psychic. /sarc

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

35 posted on 10/03/2013 1:35:50 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Why is it when some parent, some ninny, who can't hold their fudge at the sight of a picture of a gun always gets school administrators to bend over backwards to accommodate their paranoia?

Why have no school administrators the guts to say, "Your concern has been noted. Now get 51% of the parents of children in this school to agree with you and THEN we'll take action to assuage your irrational fears."

36 posted on 10/03/2013 1:36:28 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The sight of an armed man — even a fully uniformed police officer — with a handgun on the school grounds was apparently too much for some parents.

"There were some parents who were concerned about that fact that there was a fully armed officer on campus and they spoke to the principal about it," said school spokesperson Helen Hollands.


An irrational fear of firearms is a form of mental illness known as hoplophobia. It is treatable and those afflicted should seek the assistance of a mental health professional.

Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

HOPLOPHOBIA - A modern scourge



37 posted on 10/03/2013 1:38:21 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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My wife works in a school office. One morning she called and asked if I could drop off an envelope she had left on the kitchen table. Sure. She told the principal that she was going out to meet me at the curb. He asked why, I could come in. She told him that if I walked through the metal detector it might explode from overload. Said he laughed, shook his head and said he didn’t want to know.


38 posted on 10/03/2013 1:39:09 PM PDT by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
How did generations manage to grow up sane and healthy after laying their eyes on a firearm numerous times in their lives, maybe even-gasp-shooting one?
39 posted on 10/03/2013 1:40:10 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Gator113

Exactly.

The damage has already been done.

Gun- bad.

Policeman-bad.

Oh, by the way- oopsie!!!!

What do you think the children will remember? ‘The gun is bad’ or ‘We were wrong’?


40 posted on 10/03/2013 1:42:22 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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