One other thing about the debates; is it conceivable for the debates to continue past the Oct 17 debt ceiling deadline? Could the House GOP simply say they are gonna ignore that deadline or would they still be obligated to end the shutdown one way or the other by Oct 17? Is it an option for them to say they are gonna just keep going past that date and totally ignore the debt ceiling deadline?
0bama wants himself his own October revolution.
October 17th is a famous day.