Posted on 09/30/2013 9:24:47 AM PDT by shego
During his Ironman 21-hour speech, Sen. Ted Cruz read excerpts from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, name-dropped "libertarians" at least six times, and yielded to Sen. Rand Paul, who invoked Frederic Bastiat's "What is Seen and Unseen," a favorite among libertarians.
Ted Cruz, who retained remarkable composure over the long night, seems in all things deliberate. Political leaders seem to have become more comfortable talking about libertarians, even identifying themselves as such. Libertarians may have reached a tipping point within the Republican Party.
Last week, a FreedomWorks study on public opinion found that libertarian views within the Republican Party are at the highest point in a decade, today representing 41 percent of Republican voters....
We define libertarians as those who favor "smaller government" and think government should not promote "traditional values." Using this method, FreedomWorks data show that 41 percent of Republicans and Republican leaning independents are libertarian today.
Two separate data sources, Gallup and ANES, show the same trend: that libertarian views are at the highest point in a decade....
Of course, as I've have noted previously, not all these libertarians self-identify as such and many don't know the word. But even that seems to be changing, and it's not just Ted Cruz.
Sen. Rand Paul calls himself a "libertarian-leaning Republican." Glenn Beck now considers himself libertarian, saying "I'm a lot closer to Penn Jillette than I am to Chuck Hagel." Matt Drudge recently tweeted his frustration with Republicans on Syria, saying it's now "authoritarian vs. libertarian." According to FreedomWorks' poll, only 10 percent of Republicans "don't know" the word libertarian, compared to 27 percent nationally.
The data confirm that libertarian views may well have reached a tipping point in the Republican Party.
(Excerpt) Read more at cato.org ...
People can marry their toaster, for all I care. As long as that decision isn’t costing taxpayers money for the extra partners + benefits for “alternative” lifestyles. Take a flat salary instead, allocate it as you please (to your toaster’s healthcare).
Tea Party is a fiscal responsibility movement - not obsessed with gays, “queers,” homos, or whatever you term them.
NO CRICKETS - JUST ME. My husband agrees with me; we have both voted Republican for many years; work in Washington DC during the Reagan admin; worked at Heritage Foundation.
Have a nice evening, everyone.
Actually the largest group within the tea party are social conservatives, even what is known as the religious right, it doesn’t have that many libertarians.
They know what they are focused on right now, but they are not social liberals, so don’t think that is where they are if the question arises.
Your fascination with homosexuals is sad.
Is Christmas a sacrament in your church?
Amusing that you think Vietnam was fought by volunteers.
Wrong again.
That whole “the tea party are frauds who pretend to care about taxes but really have a whole other agenda” line is nothing but liberal disinformation.
Awesome. Cruz / Paul 2016.
Sounds like a plan to me!
One thing about virtues -- which are defined as "good moral habits" -- is that their exercise doesn't require the cooperation, or compulsion, of another person.
Republicans have learned to vote for the ‘best’ of two evils so is this supposed to be different? I have voted libertarian for a long time. I think at their worst the libertarian party is better than the republicans now in office.
You dismiss the idea of queer marriage as long as it doesn't cost taxpayers anything. You can't be that ignorant of the facts, can you? Homosexuals who work for the government want to name their "spouses" as dependents. Due to their lifestyle and practices, they have a higher rate of disease, more mental illness, more substance abuse, and a shorter lifespan. What do you think that means for the taxpayer? Or, for that matter, for private businesses' bottom lines?
And yes, there are costs besides monetary ones, no matter how much contempt you fiscal-only types have for social issues. School children will be taught that a filthy abomination is equal with marriage. More children will be adopted by same-sex couples, which opens those kids up to a higher probability of drug abuse, promiscuity, and mental and emotional health issues.
Not to mention physical and sexual abuse. Are you not aware of the fact that homosexuals adopt children and sexually abuse them from infancy? If you have a strong stomach, google the Folsom Street Fair. You'll see queers parading their adopted toddlers around on chains, in leather bondage outfits. But hey! Let them marry if it doesn't cost you money, right? /s
Then there's the issue of the slippery slope, and what will follow after queer marriage. The polygamists are already making noise, wanting their relationships to be normalized and approved. But you don't mind, right? Long as you don't have to pay for it. And the same will doubtless be true when the zoophiliacs are next up.
"Tea Party is a fiscal responsibility movement - not obsessed with gays, queers, homos, or whatever you term them"
I term them queers, fags, and filthy, feces-obsessed sodomites. Is that plain enough for you? I won't play the PC game of allowing them to redefine the language, as you are doing, in your self-satisfied attempt to be tolerant.
Lastly, how dare you accuse conservatives of being "obsessed" with queers. Their deviant, sick lifestyle is pushed in our faces daily while they demand not only tolerance, but acceptance and approval. Yet according to you, we should shut up and take it; speaking the truth about these deviants is "obsession."
Well, sister, you can take that liberal point of view and....well, let's just say you can ask your "gay" friends what to do with it. They'll know.
And yet the gubernatorial candidate you support will try to force queer marriage on the state of Virginia. How do you justify that?
Been there, done that, won't do it any more.
Taxed Enough Already.
Sure, that spells ‘support of government program to raise morals’ to me.
It means more social security paid in, and fewer social security payouts.
Or, for that matter, for private businesses' bottom lines?"
Less time off for pregnancy or tending to the children.
Please name one person that the candidate for governor of Virginia will force into a queer marriage.
Would you try and focus, read that post again and quit making up fake quotes that have zero relevance to what a poster posts.
The numbers of the WWII dead and the Vietnam war dead, are roughly reversed with about 70% of the WWII dead being draftees and about 70% of the Vietnam dead being volunteers.
Of Americans who served in Vietnam about 25% of them were draftees.
Read post 402 again and try to understand what it said it was merely but accurately describing who makes up the tea party, we know the polling data on who makes up the tea party.
What you two don’t grasp is how the electorate breaks down, being social liberals you don’t understand that your types are overwhelmingly affiliated with the democrat party, while the right is overwhelmingly made up of Christians and religious people, for instance Orthodox Jews vote republican although Jews overwhelmingly vote democrats.
“”Tea Party Overwhelmingly Christian And Socially Conservative.
So, first, it’s an overwhelmingly Christian group. 81% identify as Christian, and nearly half (47%) say they are part of the religious right or conservative Christian movement.
Secondly, it isn’t libertarian, it’s much more socially conservative, with 63% saying abortion should be illegal and only 18% in favor of gay marriage.””
Really?
Full term abortion, no such thing as marriage, gay everything, fire the Border patrol and INS and throw open the gates, actually remove the border restraints and allow full and total open borders? A total and complete destruction of American culture?
All this and more, not as a failing, or because of weakness or rinos, etc., but as a deliberate party platform, an open and aggressively pursued party agenda.
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