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I think the law and order conservative has wrought enough heart ache on the world. Remember the law and order conservative created the war on drugs and prohibition. It also brought us Bill Clinton’s 100,000 new cops on the beat and all the busy work that it entails. Law and Order conservatives need to agree to punish crimes with victims harshly but stay out of stuff like this. Seat belt laws, cell phone laws, even the questionable DUI at .08 are questionable things.
Bill Clinton was no conservative, in any way, shape or form. The fact that such a LIBERAL Democrat brought forth 100,000 new cops, which I truly doubt as the number on the Internet don't agree with that, showed that new cops were essential. If the GOP had had their way, perhaps there would have been MORE new cops than 100,000.

What "law and order conservative" created prohibition? Are you talking Eliot Ness/Frank Nitty and friends? What?

MADD, another law and order conservative type whined and cried and got the .o8 passed. They created a whole industry of judges, cops, attorneys and prosecutors.
So MADD created a whole industry of judges, cops, attorneys and prosecuters??? Wow, even THEY don't think that they had THAT much power.
The ballot box showed WHO was tired of drunken drivers and the highest offender-group, males, 18-25, getting off with slaps on the wrist for drinking and driving.
STANFORD UNIVERSITY has an entire wing for the body parts of young males who have died driving the way that group drives. For the motorcyclists (almost ALL young males) they coined the term "donor-cycle" to demonstrate how that group of males are "prime donors" for body parts for the rest of the human family.

What had happened previously was that drunk drivers were not held accountable even when they caused accidents. The solution from MADD was to create a whole industry around DUI. The better response would have been to throw out BAC levels until an accident occurs. Punish a drunk driver who causes an accident with permanent drivers license revocation huge fines and imprisonment for many many years. This approach requires a victim. That’s the point. A victim.
Permanent driver's license revocation was suggested but turned down in California because the folks in SOUTHERN California HAVE NO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION and rely totally on the CAR. Since they have most of the voters in that state, they had their way.
Personally, I like that idea, but it won't happen in California, the third largest economy in the WORLD.

I have had quite enough of the Law and Order conservative.
Have you now? Well, if their counterpart, the non-Law and Order liberal were in charge, I BET you wouldn't like THEM either. Just a guess, not sure.

“Bill Clinton was no conservative”

True he was not. But he attracted lots of conservative votes. He triangulated. The 100k cops on the street was a classic ploy to get the law and order conservative.

As far as libertarians go, unfortunately many have hung their hats on drug USE. I am pretty sure that folks who want to use drugs will use them. They always have. In Russia these idiots are mixing diesel fuel, bleach, Lord only knows what in their bathtubs and melting their faces off. Whatever, Darwin award for them. Lets see, billions of dollars later hows the WOD going? Oh yeah. We are still losing. WOD has given us no knock raids, armored cars in police paint jobs, and SWAT teams who look like the Big Red One infantry division. WOD and RICO has subverted the Bill of Rights; the 4th amendment has become a joke. So I think we can safely say the WOD is a massive expensive jobs program for Federal Employees and construction companies specializing in jail construction.

I don’t know how to label me, but I really am a big fan of Jefferson, Adam, Locke, Franklin, Washington. So however you want to say it.

Prohibition was a classic case of Law and Order and Morals. It is hard to label Conservative or Liberal back then. It was pushed through with the Women s Temperance movement, suffrage, etc. Was it an appeal for law and order, morals? Yes. Sort of reminds me of the Jerry Falwell Moral Majority Crowd, but certainly no clear modern label exactly fits.

Yes, I have had quite enough of Law and Order Conservatives. Live and let live, not everybody needs to be in jail. Exception includes violent criminals, i.e. armed robbery, murder, drunk drivers who cause accidents, plus non violent thieves, contract breakers, larcenist, swindlers etc.

Laws exist to give us freedom from violence and oppression. Laws when properly applied provide freedom, ensure that when a man plants crops he can reasonably be certain that he will be able to harvest the crops and take them to market without a bully taking his labor. When the Laws become the oppressor, as now, we have a real problem.