Posted on 09/28/2013 7:27:56 AM PDT by upchuck
Cruz, Lee, Paul, and a few others are in there doing the job for us. The rest need to be dumped.
Hostage: “A vote for cloture was a vote for funding Obamacare and for vastly expanding government.”
You’re simply deeming that to be true, but 44 Republican Senators voted AGAINST the Senate Democrat’s bill to restore Obamacare funding. It may not be the approach you prefer, but they did NOT vote to fund Obamacare.
jonrick46: “Why don’t you agree that Coburn is a RINO and a traitor?”
I think I explained that. Senator Coburn is a reliable vote against big government. You may not like it that he voted for cloture, but he also voted against the Senate’s bill to fund Obamacare. I have zero doubt that he’ll continue to vote against Obamacare. I only hope we can elect enough conservatives to join him so that that vote can actually achieve the desired aim.
You may not like the approach Senator Coburn and others took, but 44 Republican senators actually voted against funding Obamacare. Senator Cruz was hoping they would take his approach, but they disagreed. I don’t think that was wise, because it would have been better to show party unity. Nevertheless, they did, in fact, vote against funding Obamacare.
As I pointed out (poorly) in my earlier post, this doesn’t excuse senators like McCain who went well beyond simply disagreeing with Senator Cruz. Senate Majority Leader Reid was positively giddy to get McCain at the podium so that McCain could denounce Cruz’s attempt. It wasn’t enough to simply vote for cloture, McCain had to attack a fellow Republican on the Senate floor. He made it personal.
So I have no doubt that Senator Coburn will continue to vote against Obamacare. If we ever give Republicans a majority again in the Senate, then we’ll see who really is on our side. Frankly, I don’t trust McCain to be the 51st vote to defund Obamacare if it comes down to it. Coburn, on the other hand, will do the right thing.
And with the republican leadership wanting to push for a 1 year delay that will give democrats cover for the next election let’s us know who the really support
Obviously you haven’t been listening or you fail to understand.
Ted Cruz revealed the trick used by the old guard in the senate. Vote for cloture allowed Reid to strike out the defund provision in the CR and pass it with only 51 votes.
So corrupt republican senators knew that they could vote for cloture and then vote against the senate CR version and go home and say they voted against funding Obamacare. But they knew that with only 51 votes needed to pass the senate CR, that Obamacare would be funded. They knew this and they think the voters are too stupid to know this trick. But Ted Cruz has alerted millions of how senators use procedural rules to hide their true intent.
They allowed Reid to fund Obamacare. THEY ALLOWED IT BY VOTING FOR CLOTURE!
And then they act as if they washed their hands of it when they vote against the senate CR that Reid put together without further amendment except his own.
Don’t try to tell Freepers that those republican members of the senate who voted for cloture were unaware they were permitting Obamacare to be funded. It was posted here hundreds upon hundreds of times, it was observed countless times and explained by Ted Cruz and others over and over again so that millions upon millions of conservatives understood this sleight of hand.
McConnell himself voted for cloture to set up a vote on Obamacare in 2010. And now he is facing a tough, very tough primary opponent. That’s the way it should be and that’s the way it is.
The 25 republican senators who voted for cloture are listed and identified. Many if not most of them will be primaried.
Any Senator that voted for cloture voted to fund Obamacare.
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