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Would You Join a Third Party Founded by Ted Cruz?
Ricochet ^ | September 25, 2013 | Astonishing

Posted on 09/26/2013 9:56:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I've properly taken to task Republicans who--in the heat of the present battle--are still attacking Ted Cruz and thereby effectively adding their voices to the Democrat choir that would blame Republicans for a government shutdown. (Their defeatist prophecy is sadly self-fulfilling.)

For that criticism, I've lately been accused of calling for a "purge" of impure Republicans.

Of course, I've never called for a purge, but the talk of purges makes me wonder if perhaps I and others like-minded should "purge" ourselves from the Republican Party.

No matter what you think about the current CR/Obamacare battle, it seems undeniable that the GOP rank-and-file is completely frustrated with the waffling Republican establishment and its intelligentsia. I'm accused of being unrealistic about the CR fight, but if I am unrealistic, then the GOP establishment's "realists" must also admit the reality that the GOP is coming apart before our eyes. Something must arise to replace it. (Perhaps that's a self-fulfilling prophecy, too. So be it!)

Is the time ripe for a third party?

Yes, I know very well such talk is usually quickly dismissed because a third party could not immediately become a viable "stand alone" alternative to the GOP.

But a third party split off from the GOP could immediately become a formidable political force by selectively aligning itself with the GOP and GOP candidates when the occasion required, but withholding support when the GOP refused to stand for our core principles.

Following a strategy of selectively aligning itself with the GOP, a new third party could eventually supplant the GOP rump by gradually siphoning off the Republican rank-and-file without ever reducing conservative clout by a single vote.

Would you join?

What are the core principles that a third party would need to uphold to in order to win your support?

I admit, I'm a bit of Wall Street Journal squish on immigration, but I could happily join with almost any collection of anti-immigrationists if they shared my views on a government of limited, express power, the rollback of government collectivism, reduced taxes, etc. Even though I am viscerally anti-abortion, I could even go along with a party platform that would explicitly leave that issue (and SSM) for the states to decide.

I guess you could say that, at the federal level, I'm almost libertarian, while at the state and local level, I'm a communitarian who believes citizens in local communities should be allowed to decide how to rule themselves, so long as core individual rights are respected. In other words, if the people of Berkeley want to worship the god of Mother Nature and tax themselves into oblivion, that's their business, because I don't have to live there. So far as I'm concerned , the people of California can vote to do pretty much whatever they want, so long as they don't expect us Texans to pay for it with federal tax dollars.

Would you join the New American Party?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; democrats; gop; republicans
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Bingo.


81 posted on 09/27/2013 10:23:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: The Duke
After the very quick RICO trial there will be a lot of familiar Democrat faces working on chain gangs for a long, long time. They’ll think that “Cool Hand Luke” had a walk in the park!

That would a great and useful exercise; go ahead and write up the charges for the world to see.

The supplementary facts provided by Freepers with long memories, and historical facts should persuade everyone, except the sub-60 IQ types and the no-information parasites who literally don't know history, economics, simple arithmetic, and the simple, predictable consequence of making bad and ignorant choices. There are literally hundreds of those in Congress (both houses)!

82 posted on 09/27/2013 5:40:09 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: stillonaroll
What I'd like to see him and other conservatives advocate is that the Republican presidential candidate should be selected only by Republicans: no Rats or independents in the R primary. IMHO, it's largely because of open primaries that we get RINO nominees.

That would take the only remaining satisfying option in elections.
As a registered dim-o-crat I have in the past for Jesse Jackass, Al Sharpie and a plethora of other dimwits in the primaries.

Works both ways.

83 posted on 09/27/2013 5:45:50 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: MacMattico
I prefer to work from within. There will always be a large group that votes for the party. It will take years, maybe decades for a third party to win the Presidency. I don't want to get stuck with 10 more Obama’s.

You're fighting the battle of the sixties. You will be stuck with 10 more Obamas (no apostrophe,) or worse if you "work from within."

When the enemy controls all venues of power, and each and all violate the constitution regularly with impunity, and there is NO recourse, "work from within" has become a cruel sick joke.

84 posted on 09/27/2013 6:00:09 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Pajamajan
(But, the party should be based on old principals-the Constitution.)

Do it the easy way. Eliminate the Department of Education.

85 posted on 09/27/2013 6:02:03 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911

Cruz is working from within. Just primary out the least conservative 50% of Republicans and replace them with people as conservative as Cruz. Why not continue the same strategy that got us Cruz in the first place?

Ultimately I don’t think changing the party label magically changes anything. You have to find the right people. And once you find them, it doesn’t much matter what their label is.

I would also say give no money to the party itself unless and until it’s reformed from within. Only give to outside conservative groups who will fund conservative candidates.


86 posted on 09/27/2013 6:06:21 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP has become a third-party.


87 posted on 09/27/2013 6:57:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: publius911

The charge would be “conspiracy”. It would be quickly proven, penalties assessed, and prisoners led off in chains.


88 posted on 09/27/2013 7:21:32 PM PDT by The Duke
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