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To: yldstrk

I’ve never been a fan of the low-voltage spark exploding the center fuel tank theory... It’s hard to believe. But I’m not buying this either.

a.) It’s WND. One big problem right there. Note the lack of any actual new evidence. Just the same warmed-over opinions.

b.) There is just no way— no way— that a whole navy ship full of hundreds of sailors could keep a secret this juicy for this long. Ain’t happening.

I’d still believe it was a surface launched missile, but from a terrorist boat somewhere, not the navy. Much easier to keep a secret within a smaller group of FBI and Boeing investigators. Also a good way to get the CIA of all people to make you a sweet graphic movie. The motive is even a little bit noble... If you hide the terrorist angle and you deny them their prize.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 7:10:56 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

Agree in general with your comments.
The thing that makes me dubious about the “terrorist missile” is that there was only one.

Hard to imagine they would stop there. It’s not like they had access to the only functional manpad in the world.


25 posted on 09/25/2013 7:12:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Ramius

I beg to differ. I know it can happen. And it would NOT have been the whole crew knowing what happened. I was AFSA way back when and my father- career navy officer- told me some things before he died that tells me that, yes, a whole ship’s crew can be intimidated to keep mum until the “deathbed confessions” of a few.


36 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Ramius

If it was a terrorist attack then it wouldn’t matter how much the government denied. The group responsible would yell it from the roof tops.

Another thing is that we shouldn’t assume that if it was an accidental shoot down by our military that every sailor aboard would know about it.

No doubt several would know, but I can’t say it would be known by all of them.

Maybe someone with experience on these vessels could shed some light on that.

One thing for sure is that the government explanation makes no sense.
That means they are hiding something.


70 posted on 09/25/2013 9:11:22 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Ramius
...you hide the terrorist angle and you deny them their prize.

Terrorist angle doesn't quite wash for me. It seems to me that terrorists would have had at least one person, if not multiple people, filming the missile firing, the missile burn and especially the airliner explosion.
If terrorists had shot down TWA800, it just makes sense that they would have boasted about it and proved that they did it.

And, just the same as is claimed about navy ship personnel, terrorists could never have kept it a secret either, even if they had wanted to.

82 posted on 09/26/2013 7:21:27 AM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: Ramius

“I’ve never been a fan of the low-voltage spark exploding the center fuel tank theory... It’s hard to believe. But I’m not buying this either.

a.) It’s WND. One big problem right there. Note the lack of any actual new evidence. Just the same warmed-over opinions.

b.) There is just no way— no way— that a whole navy ship full of hundreds of sailors could keep a secret this juicy for this long. Ain’t happening.

I’d still believe it was a surface launched missile, but from a terrorist boat somewhere, not the navy. Much easier to keep a secret within a smaller group of FBI and Boeing investigators. Also a good way to get the CIA of all people to make you a sweet graphic movie. The motive is even a little bit noble... If you hide the terrorist angle and you deny them their prize.”

If terrorists were bobbing on the water firing anti-radiation missles (CIA states the nosecone blew off), the US Navy would have picked up their launch. Would they have investigated the launch site?... or too busy picking up the pieces?


88 posted on 09/26/2013 7:53:50 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Ramius; nascarnation
a.) It’s WND. One big problem right there.

One has to remember what WND was at the time of the TWA 800 disaster.

1) Back then, WND was the first of the "alternative media" to fight the White House Press Corps credentialing process. Clinton tried to block WND from attending White House daily press briefings, because of the questions they would ask. WND fought the battles in the courts and eventually won, beginning the redefinition of what were considered to be legitimate on-line news organizations.

2) WND's top investigative reporter at the time was Paul Sperry. Sperry ran several breaking series' in advance of the 2000 election, including the White House "lost" emails and backup archives that Al Gore was in charge of, the downgrading of the West Wing telephone PBX switch system that preventing tracing calls to specific telephones, and although scrubbed from the internet, I believe that it was Paul Sperry whom Bill Clinton banned from the White House after Sperry confronted Clinton during a White House Easter Egg Hunt photo-op for children.

3) WND ran the series "Tennessee Underworld" in September 2000, exposing Al Gore's connections to Tennessee racketeering. This expose was considered to be largely responsible for Al Gore losing the electoral votes in his home state, making Florida ground-zero for Gore's court fights.

On the other side of the ledger, WND sent aggressive reporter Les Kinsolving to many press briefings, where Kinsolving would ask the questions that nobody else would dare to ask. Kinsolving became a lightning rod for others to attack WND as a less-than-serious "news" outfit.

-PJ

92 posted on 09/26/2013 10:51:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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