Posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Do you have a decent port in that proposed state?
Well if you live there you should know but when you see an issue like homosexual marriage being defeated rather handily, there is some red left.
Humboldt Bay is the largest port.
That’s happening already. ND isn’t getting their pipeline, much to the eternal relief of Berkshire Hathaway shareholders.
As soon as Byrd died, they went to war against WV too.
Yep.
If Colorado and California refuse to let their counties go who want out and a civil war is what it takes then, sooner or later, they'll get one.
It happened again in the 70's after a bad winter in the NE, suddenly there were NY license plates everywhere.
And then a lot of government people will be 'brutally put down' in retaliation. Just how that kind of thing works.
Sorry, due to Demographics the federal government is going to be one party rule from now on. Forming a new state even if you are allowed to will not help, those crazy state laws will soon be federal laws (and just wait to all the new federal laws and rights a Liberal majority Supreme Court comes up with).
Instead of a new state of Jefferson, they should be trying to create the new country of Jefferson
If by some miracle this new State of Jefferson becomes reality it is doomed if cannot keep out liberals and leeches.
FREE People don't need 'permission'.
Schemes to subvert the liberties of a great community require time to mature them for execution. An army, so large as seriously to menace those liberties, could only be formed by progressive augmentations; which would suppose, not merely a temporary combination between the legislature and executive, but a continued conspiracy for a series of time. Is it probable that such a combination would exist at all? Is it probable that it would be persevered in, and transmitted along through all the successive variations in a representative body, which biennial elections would naturally produce in both houses? Is it presumable, that every man, the instant he took his seat in the national Senate or House of Representatives, would commence a traitor to his constituents and to his country? Can it be supposed that there would not be found one man, discerning enough to detect so atrocious a conspiracy, or bold or honest enough to apprise his constituents of their danger? If such presumptions can fairly be made, there ought at once to be an end of all delegated authority. The people should resolve to recall all the powers they have heretofore parted with out of their own hands, and to divide themselves into as many States as there are counties, in order that they may be able to manage their own concerns in person.
Alexander Hamilton Federalist #26
A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half communist and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved I do not expect the house to fall but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other.
I do not think there will be division, but I fear that there will be blood.
Tehama ... come on and vote to leave Kalifornia
Let the break-up happen (peacefully) now, I am sick of liberals on the Federal level interfering in my life!
Not exactly. Requires only a majority vote of the CA legislature and of Congress.
The NWP rail line to the outside world is down, and probably not coming back between Willits and Eureka. Any commerce through that port will have to go by truck.
/NWP Geek
You go first. I’m going the other way.
I assume that the northern border of the proposed state of Jefferson stops at the southern border of Lane County?
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