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Obamacare’s ‘Cool Calculator,’ Part 2: The ‘Wedding Tax’: You're better off shacking up or divorced
Pajamas Media ^ | 09/25/2013 | Tom Blumber

Posted on 09/25/2013 9:27:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/25/2013 9:27:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Here are 59 reasons why hypocrite politicians and unions that support Obamacare want exemptions for themselves
2 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:10 AM PDT by grundle
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To: SeekAndFind

wait until the homosexual marriage lobby discovers how many married gays are now 3/5 of a person for tax exemption purposes

welcome to the party, pals!


3 posted on 09/25/2013 9:32:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: silverleaf

Marriage has long been a hidden contract, the terms of which you don’t learn until its dissolution.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 9:37:39 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So legalizing gay marriage was just a sinister plot to tax them more?/sarc


5 posted on 09/25/2013 9:38:12 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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I’m trying to find some details. I’d like to know if the deductible is separate from the out of pocket cap. In WA a family of four making $100,000 a year will have apremium of $876 a month. That's for the Silver plan with a $10,000 deductible.

The way the silver plan details read it looks like a family of 4 will pay for every bit of their HC except catastrophic occurrences.

That would mean eye care, vaccinations, physicals, broken bones and stitches and minor hospitalization like tonsils would all be out of pocket.

The idea of getting a lot of young families to pony up to make this work sounds good if they can afford platinum plans.

What isn’t being considered is that folks raising kids have a lot of expenses such as dental care, braces, glasses and chronic conditions like asthma that really add up and they would get no help in this plan that I can see. I'm not finding all the facts in this foggy plan, but it looks like the bestway to afford cheap HC is to be completely on the dole.

Working families making under $225,000 are going to be hit hard.

6 posted on 09/25/2013 9:42:46 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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Great post.

If we are hit with the slightest inflation as the FEDS continue to destroy the US dollar to achieve 0bama’s goal of doubling US exports, incomes will go up to keep up with the loss of buying power.

What are the odds that the Gov’t will recalibrate their calculators in a timely manner in order to keep folks from being totally screwed.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 9:50:57 AM PDT by Zeneta
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Gay marriage is like pot: legalize it and then tax it?


8 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:22 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s all remember that the government recognizes your marriage only if you buy a marriage license. If you get married in church and keep it between you and God, the government will still consider you single.


9 posted on 09/25/2013 9:56:29 AM PDT by Driabrin
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We used to have the wedding tax before Bush took it away. Years ago I told my lesbian bookkeeper who wanted to marry her long time girl/boyfriend that if gays could marry they would be subject to the tax.

She said, “Maybe it could be some kind of civil ceremony.” I told her civil doesn’t change anything for straight couples so gays would have to have the same tax.

Bush took away the marriage penalty so as to encourage stronger families. Then lo and behold, no penalty, gays rush to marry.

And now those couples will be subject to Bummer’s marriage tax.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 9:59:37 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Rusty0604

It makes for an interesting situation, for sure.

The gay lobby is incredibly powerful. Probably second only to the pro-2nd Amendment one. AND they have the full backing of the press, not the vilification that gun rights lobby experiences.

So we’ll see what happens when gays, still euphoric over their newfound “right” to marry, run smack dab straight into the marriage penalty.


11 posted on 09/25/2013 10:08:34 AM PDT by tanknetter
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The first scenario fits my husband and I to a tee. We cannot possibly survive on the income listed to qualify for a subsidy, but we also cannot afford to pay the exorbitant premiums for Obamacare. So how in the world is this “affordable?”


12 posted on 09/25/2013 10:26:50 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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Another unmentioned feature?/bug in Owebamacare is the law requires an employer to offer insurance to the employee, but it never mentioned the family of a covered employee.

It also offers a credit on the insurance of that employee that goes to the employer that offers the coverage.

Only those not offered insurance by their employer qualify for the credits in the state exchanges.

Read that last part several times, it’s very important.

Many employers can and will opt to save money by only offering coverage to the employee. The family is left uncovered AND unable to qualify for credits in the exchanges!!!

If say the husband/father is covered at work and earns over about $45,000 a year the family wouldn’t qualify for Medicaid either, because that is based on household income.

The idiot liberals that voted for O’bastard are just starting to find out the truth and they are fuming.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 10:27:51 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Tanniker Smith

I guess that’s one way to make sure everyone pays their “fair share”.


14 posted on 09/25/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually one of about 59 incentives in benefit programs and the tax code that provide perverse incentives for shacking up over marriage (or encourages long-married senior citizens to divorce on paper).


15 posted on 09/25/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I saw that that glitch will cause 500,000 children to lose coverage. That number sounds low to me.


16 posted on 09/25/2013 10:34:43 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Baynative
Here are a few of my questions:

If young people are supposedly going to be paying in to prop up this disaster, and they get subsidies if they make below $45K a year, and those who make more than $45K a year have health insurance paid by their employer, how is there any money going toward this ponzi scheme? I realize there is a tax on every single employer paid plan but still, they keep saying young people will buy in. Instead, the government will be subsidizing them.

How will young families be able to afford this? If they are struggling to pay for a home and car, how can they come up with an additional $10K a year or more to pay for health insurance?

So we are back to the government giving insurance to the drug dealers and prostitutes and hippies who don't work and don't qualify for welfare/medicaid because they don't have children living with them. Reparations

17 posted on 09/25/2013 10:37:41 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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Regarding pot: The subsidy calculators add in thousands to your premium if you smoke, I wonder if that is explicitly for tobacco? Smoking pot and other drugs is just as unhealthy or worse.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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“We cannot possibly survive on the income listed to qualify for a subsidy, but we also cannot afford to pay the exorbitant premiums for Obamacare. So how in the world is this “affordable?”

Arbeit macht frei...


19 posted on 09/25/2013 10:41:05 AM PDT by varyouga
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“Regarding pot: The subsidy calculators add in thousands to your premium if you smoke, I wonder if that is explicitly for tobacco? Smoking pot and other drugs is just as unhealthy or worse.”

They also add in thousands for any pre-existing conditions, just like before.

Yep, you would be guaranteed coverage, but you still wouldn’t be able to afford it.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 10:44:05 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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