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Longmont homeowner holds stranger at gunpoint until police arrive (DA wants to charge homeowner)
Longmont Times-Call ^ | 9/24/13 | Pierrette J. Shields

Posted on 09/25/2013 9:00:35 AM PDT by catnipman

The homeowner pointed the gun at Carter and told him to "hit the ground" several times, police reported. Carter instead attempted to back out of the house and made it out the back door onto the patio, but the homeowner again demanded that he lie down and fired a single shot into the ground. Carter then complied, according to reports.

Longmont Police Cmdr. Jeff Satur said Tuesday that the investigation remains open and he cannot comment about additional details. He said the Boulder District Attorney's Office is reviewing the case to make sure the homeowner did not violate any laws during the altercation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; guncontrol; guns; longmont; secondamendment; selfdefense
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To: greeneyes

Me too. It’s a pity he’ll have to waste thousands of dollars on attorneys to get it before a jury.


41 posted on 09/25/2013 3:22:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Agreed.


42 posted on 09/25/2013 4:56:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ModelBreaker

The homeowner should have said the gun accidentally discharged instead of saying he fired a warning shot. We all know that guns do stuff to create problems all on their own-not the people holding the gun./sarc


43 posted on 09/25/2013 5:02:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

“If there is no law against warning shots, they shouldn’t be able to charge him with anything. If I was on his jury, I would vote not guilty, and give him a medal.”

I was unclear I think. Under most local laws in urban areas, discharging a gun is illegal, unless the use of deadly force is permissible. In your home, in CO, deadly force is almost completely permissible as long as you have any belief that the intruder may mean harm to you or your family. So pretty much always and as long as the person you shot entered the home illegally. But outside the home, you have to have an actual and reasonably belief that the intruder is about to kill or maim you or another person.

So if an intruder backs out of your house and isn’t holding a gun, you would probably not be justified in the use of deadly force under the later standard, which applies when a person is outside the home. Therefore, a warning shot is probably an illegal discharge of a firearm.

In any event, there is no justification for warning shots. The chance of an innocent person being injured is much higher for warning shots than for aimed shots at center of mass. But here, there was probably no legal justification for an aimed shot at center of mass as the intruder was retreating and outside the home.


44 posted on 09/25/2013 9:52:13 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: capt B
“Warning shots are not allowed anywhere that I know of. 

Try telling that to Obama and Kerry. They were crowing about firing warning shots at Syria just a week ago.

-PJ

45 posted on 09/25/2013 10:03:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Bookmarking.
The DA is fishing. Hope the guy gets off.


46 posted on 09/25/2013 10:13:15 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: ModelBreaker

I still wouldn’t punish him. He didn’t shoot the guy. He just held him for the police. He probably saved someone else from a robbery.


47 posted on 09/26/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Youngman542012

dead men tell no tales,but their parents sell t-shirts and go on Oprah and hire an attorney for a civil suit.


48 posted on 09/26/2013 9:41:52 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

“I fired once as he came at me but I missed. But then he dropped to the ground and started whining ‘don’t shoot me, don’t shoot me!’”

Except I guess I wouldn’t have missed if he were in my house.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 9:45:17 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: PowderMonkey
No wonder the perp immediately complied. His ears are probably still ringing.

And had a big blue/black spot in his vision from the muzzle blast flash.

50 posted on 09/26/2013 9:47:21 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: 21twelve

I love it when they pee themselves in terror. But I wonder who your post was meant for?


51 posted on 09/26/2013 9:54:10 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
He said the Boulder District Attorney's Office is reviewing the case to make sure the homeowner did not violate any laws during the altercation

Can anyone imagine some criminal lunatic entering your home at 4 in the GD morning and the local government is now eying the homeowner victim as a potential guy.

How disgusting can government get?

Hopefully everyone in Longmont CO will stand up to this Nazi government bull sh*t.

52 posted on 09/26/2013 10:08:08 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Meant for you regarding the use (or misuse) of a warning shot. Although I suppose if I ever did fire a warning shot, I probably wouldn't be quick enough to think up the excuse. Sadly, I think in some cases one can even be charged with “brandishing” if they are showing a firearm in order to stop aggressive behavior or other criminal activity. Obviously you don't lift up your shirt tail if someone is badmouthing you, but I mean if they are coming at you, etc.
53 posted on 09/26/2013 9:53:12 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: dragnet2

Can anyone imagine some criminal lunatic entering your home at 4 in the GD morning and the local government is now eying the homeowner victim as a potential guy.

How disgusting can government get?

Hopefully everyone in Longmont CO will stand up to this Nazi government bull sh*t.

Pretty soon is will become “Shovel and shutup” you never prosecute a victim for being an agent of Natural Selection...


54 posted on 09/27/2013 3:32:07 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Similar situations got to be such a stink in what was till recently an almost impossible-to-bear-arms Illinois, that the liberalish legislature got pushed into barring prosecution in home defense situations. You would get your gun taken but they can not prosecute for having it illegally. If even Illinois could get that much right, then Colorado ought to be able to.


55 posted on 09/27/2013 3:36:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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