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Students Suspended For Playing With Pellet Gun in Own Front Yard, One Mother Called Because It Made
Reason.com ^

Posted on 09/24/2013 10:37:23 AM PDT by matt04

WAVY, the NBC affiliate in Hampton Roads, Virginia asks “has zero tolerance gone too far?” as it reports this story:

A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm. The “fire” in firearm, of course, refers to gunpowder, which a pellet gun doesn’t have. Six children were playing in the Caraballo front yard all together, and the school suspended three it said had discharged the “firearm” near the school bus stop. The school found out about the kids playing around because a neighbor, the mother of one of the children not suspended, called 911. WAVY tracked her down:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 4ththread; banglist; called; front; gun; guncontrol; hamptonroads; mother; pellet; pelletgun; playing; schools; secondamendment; students; suspended; uncomfortable; yard; zerotolerance
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To: heartwood

But again - we have inconsistencies - pellet gun or airsoft? And no - I do not condone shooting other children with anything (outside of them being active and willing participants in a game).

Most states consider bus stops to be “school property” for the intent of school children. IF this is the case - and these boys were shooting kids getting off the bus - then something needs to be done.

But I’m not yet convinced that expulsion is the answer.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 11:00:55 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: matt04


22 posted on 09/24/2013 11:01:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: matt04

Shooting each other is the whole purpose of an airsoft gun.

Its intended use is by kids to shoot one another.


23 posted on 09/24/2013 11:01:38 AM PDT by marron
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To: matt04
We used to play "war" in our neighborhood with BB guns.

Say what you want, but those things hurt even through clothing and winter coats.

24 posted on 09/24/2013 11:03:40 AM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: matt04
Idiocy like this should not be free. The mother who called 911 needs to be identified and held up to public ridicule. The principal and those others involved to suspend these students need to be sued and a gun rights legal defense group needs to fund the legal action. Finally, each of these idiots needs to have their own backgrounds checked to see what might be useful in the continued culture war for America.
25 posted on 09/24/2013 11:06:54 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: GladesGuru

I agree. What law in any state gives the school district jurisdiction to tell you what you can and can’t do on your own private property. Are people really that stupid to think the school district has legal standing in this case?


26 posted on 09/24/2013 11:08:06 AM PDT by Allison_Wonderland
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To: matt04

By the time it hits CNN, the weapon in question will be “A fully-automatic assault AK-47 machine-BB gun”. furthermore, they’ll probably claim that the kid bought it at one of those “unregulated Texas gun shows where they sell weapons to escaped mental patients, kids and blind terrorists”.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Fight to replace socialized, singe payer schools with a capitalist school system.

http://www.schoolandstate.org/case.htm


28 posted on 09/24/2013 11:13:09 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: matt04
A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

Jeez, these F'ing educators are STUPID.. what is next --- you can't eat MEAT in your own home...?

29 posted on 09/24/2013 11:13:39 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: matt04

It was probably an assault-style airsoft weapon. The journalist must be having a bad day to have not thrown that into the horrible account of what the terrorized children, and that mother of a neighbor, had to endure.


30 posted on 09/24/2013 11:18:48 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: matt04

According to the school, he was suspended for shooting and hitting kids waiting at a school bus stop.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 11:21:40 AM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: paulcissa

Not once the school brings up that he was suspended for shooting and hitting kids waiting at a nearby school bus stop.


32 posted on 09/24/2013 11:23:41 AM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: TheBattman

They were shooting at and hitting kids who were waiting at a school bus stop. They weren’t expelled for playing with guns they were expelled for shooting them at people.


33 posted on 09/24/2013 11:30:42 AM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: oldenuff2no

One of these days the media is going to be right when they report a pissed off right winger went off his rocker with a REAL gun.

When I was a kid we’d go into the woods and play war with BB guns. And no one lost an eye.


34 posted on 09/24/2013 11:31:43 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: matt04
When I was 14, I could walk all over town with a .22 rifle, no problem.
Cop would drive by, he'd just wave at me.
Now, a 14 year old with a .22 would be Swat-Teamed.

And there's another problem. The term 'Swat Team' being turned into a verb.

35 posted on 09/24/2013 11:33:24 AM PDT by real saxophonist (All you poor, all you needy, all you're doin' is givin' to the greedy... Temptations, 'Power')
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To: VerySadAmerican

“When I was a kid we’d go into the woods and play war with BB guns. And no one lost an eye.”

Back in the idyllic ‘50s when I was a lad, more to be feared than BB gun fights were rock fights - they were sometimes very scary.

Luckily, rocks are no longer available to our youth...


36 posted on 09/24/2013 11:42:44 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: TheBattman

I think it should be treated like a kid who is throwing sticks or pepples at another kid.

If no one was hurt (like blinded by gettng shot in the face), then the matter should be handled at home.

If someone was blinded, the parents should pay medical bills. Not sure what should be done to stupd kids.

If the kids did it on purpose (aiming at someone’s face), then I think something should be done to the kids.

I would feel the same way if some kid was aiming and throwng sticks at another kid’s face with the intent to harm.


37 posted on 09/24/2013 11:53:07 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: ProfoundBabe

My pellet rifle probably looks like a real gun from across the street.

Plus you could put your eye out with that thing kid.


38 posted on 09/24/2013 11:55:20 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: John O
The mother who called 911 needs to be publicly flogged.

She needs to be shunned - the entire neighborhood needs to divide between decent people who pretend that she and her children do not exist and the parasites who cower in fear with their tattletale leader. The whining mother needs to be excluded from decent society, and her children need to be shunned as well. Good people cannot lie down with dogs, or we (and our kids) will get up with fleas.

39 posted on 09/24/2013 1:49:13 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: chae

I think you and I are the only ones that read the article...


40 posted on 09/24/2013 1:50:34 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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