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Medved: No honest Republican thinks Obamacare can be stopped
KIRO/MyNorthwest ^ | 9/23/13 | STEPHANIE KLEIN

Posted on 09/23/2013 10:51:41 PM PDT by hoagy62

The countdown is on. The Affordable Health Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare, kicks in on Oct. 1.

Michael Medved told KIRO Radio's Tom and Curley on Monday that Sen. Rand Paul and Sen. Ted Cruz, staunch critics of President Obama's health care plan, have come on his show and told him there's no way to defund Obamacare.

"So what are they doing, they're advancing their own careers, they're advancing their own presidential campaigns and meanwhile, destroying the party that I care about. Destroying any chance at all for Republicans to either win the Senate or to, increasingly, hold the House. I think we could lose the House over this."

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"What bothers me about it most and what I find most unforgivable is people like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are lying to the base. They are getting people's hopes up, saying this is going to be a big fight. There is no possible way. You can game this out all you want. President Obama was very clear about this. He will veto any attempt to remove Obamacare from the books. It passed four years ago without a single Republican vote. I wish it hadn't passed. I don't like it, but for God's sake, it borders on immoral, at this point, to lead people to believe that this isn't the law of the land and they don't have to adjust their lives to deal with it."

Medved said he believes there's an 80 percent chance the government will shut down.

"I think it's going to happen. President Obama will gain from it big time. Ted Cruz will personally gain from it. The only loser is the Republican party national. There is no sane, mainstream, honest Republican or conservative who thinks this is a good idea."

(Excerpt) Read more at mynorthwest.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defeat; giveup; gop4romneyagenda; gop4romneycare; gopvsamerica; obamacare; romneycare
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Sounds like Medved's saying that there's nothing we can do and we should just 'give up'

What say you?

1 posted on 09/23/2013 10:51:41 PM PDT by hoagy62
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Sounds like Medved's saying that there's nothing we can do and we should just 'give up'

That is what his show consists of year in, year out, election after election his show is devoted to moderating the GOP.

2 posted on 09/23/2013 10:56:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: hoagy62

NUTS!


3 posted on 09/23/2013 10:58:22 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( FREEDOM!)
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To: hoagy62
"Sounds like Medved's saying that there's nothing we can do and we should just 'give up' "

Medved is saying much more than that.

He's saying that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are callous liars.

I want Medved to prove that assertion. Until then, I'll go with my gut instinct and believe the Tea Party leaders and look askance at Michael ("seize the ideological center") Medved.
4 posted on 09/23/2013 10:58:41 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: hoagy62

Has Medved ever called Obama a liar?


5 posted on 09/23/2013 10:59:52 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: hoagy62

Medved has some good social values to be sure! But he is very poorly informed as to many political matters, it seems.

Congress (specifically the House) has the power of the purse.

no matter what Medved may think, this is how our government is set up


6 posted on 09/23/2013 11:00:27 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: shibumi

This clown is a centrist and I heard him say it on the LA show.


7 posted on 09/23/2013 11:00:36 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: hoagy62

I never listen to Medved anymore-—he is a Progressive. I’ve even read his books—and he makes great points-—but, no “fixing” anything.... Just go along with the Progressive agenda. It is why he is allowed to be on the air.

Knew this 8 years ago. He will sound conservative at times—very conservative-—but trust me when I say-—he is NOT conservative-—he is a closet Progressive and undermining this country, just like a Paul Ryan/Christie.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 11:02:25 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: hoagy62
"What bothers me about it most and what I find most unforgivable is people like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin are lying to the base.

Has Medved ever said it was unforgivable to pass Obamacare? I'm betting he has never said anything even remotely close to that when it comes to discussing the damage Obama has done to this country.

9 posted on 09/23/2013 11:04:32 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: hoagy62

The only fight you are guaranteed to lose is the one you never even tried to win, Medved, you cheese eating surrender monkey.


10 posted on 09/23/2013 11:06:15 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: hoagy62

What he meant to say was that no died in the wool RINO thinks it can be stopped.

Conservatives know it can be stopped. We just have to find reps with the spine and commitment and toe them into office. More people like Cruz. And we will.


11 posted on 09/23/2013 11:06:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: hoagy62
A better question is how many people think it can last? A gigantic new spending program in a country that is already 200 Trillion in debt?

That a couple of hundred people voted on it is actually inconsequential. Washington can wish it into existence, but in the end it and a lot of other things, will not be sustainable.

12 posted on 09/23/2013 11:10:59 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Stephanie, not to nitpick, but commas don’t replace question marks and periods, not even when in a quote.

Obamacare will either have to be stopped now, or in the future, when it has done irreparable damage to the economy, health insurance, the health industry and family incomes. Everyone, even the fanatical leftists know it is a mistake, but pride and arrogance drive it on. What is the plan to stop it after the train wreck?


13 posted on 09/23/2013 11:12:10 PM PDT by pallis
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To: hoagy62

This defund vote exposes two extremes, which will be a great thing for conservatism. Either the House will be strengthened in 2014 for being bold and standing on principle, or the Senate GOP will be rewarded for their Karl Rovian pastel meakness. In 2014, bold and meak will be on the ballet. Will The House or Senate prevail at the polls? All GOP that cave, don’t vote to defund, will be outed as “beltway gamers” and the stench of their elitist hypocrisy will not be easily erased from the voter’s memory.

This is a litmus test and conservatism will ultimately benefit, regardless of the actual defund movement’s outcome. Thank you Cruz, Lee and Palin!


14 posted on 09/23/2013 11:14:41 PM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: hoagy62

Same f’ing RINO that backed the losers McCain and Romney early and often. STFU Medved unless you have something constructive and intelligent to say.

There are numerous ways to defund ObamaCare #1 Don’t fund it.It is the prevue of the House to decide what is and what is not funded. End of story. All it takes is political will and guts.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 11:18:18 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: hoagy62

I’m very skeptical that it can be stopped, but I’m sure as hell gonna die trying!!!


16 posted on 09/23/2013 11:27:29 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: prisoner6
Yeah, Republicans need to learn from history.
December 22nd 1944

To the U.S. A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.

‘The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Ourthe near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hombres Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

‘If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A.A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. Troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours term.

‘All the serious civilian losses caused by this Artillery fire would not correspond with the well known American humanity.

(signed) ‘The German Commander’

“The German Commander received the following reply:

‘22 December 1944 ’To the German Commander:

‘NUTS!

(signed) ‘The American Commander’

McAuliffe continued:

“Allied Troops are counterattacking in force. We continue to hold Bastogne. By holding Bastogne we assure the success of the Allied Armies. We know that our Division Commander, General Taylor, will say: Well Done!

“We are giving our country and our loved ones at home a worthy Christmas present and being privileged to take part in this gallant feat of arms are truly making for ourselves a Merry Christmas. A.C. McAuliffe

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/christmas-1944-when-us-troops-said-nuts-enemy


17 posted on 09/23/2013 11:29:26 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: max americana

He promised us that Romney would win, and he should have know what a bad candidate Romney would be. He will support no one who is less moderate than Romney.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 11:34:57 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: hoagy62

Medved is a Hollywood hanger-on.


19 posted on 09/23/2013 11:37:17 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ansel12
That is what his show consists of year in, year out, election after election his show is devoted to moderating the GOP.

Well, he must be good at it, because I've never seen a more spineless bunch of milquetoasts.

20 posted on 09/23/2013 11:42:33 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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