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American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene? [Massive hurl alert]
The Observer ^ | 21 September 2013 | Henry Porter

Posted on 09/21/2013 10:14:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

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To: Billthedrill
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

~Abraham Lincoln, Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, January 27, 1838

41 posted on 09/22/2013 2:05:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GeronL

A good read on Caracas, Venezuela by the United States Department of State:

https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=13038

Yes, Caracas has tremendous poverty due to a failing socialistic state. Socialist fail to learn from the failures of other systems that big government is a system doomed to fail.

What is drawing the poor to crime is the illegal drug industry. The poor will rob, steal, and kidnap to further this industry with the necessary “operating capital.” You will see this statement in the above report: “Much of Caracas’s crime and violence can be attributed to mobile street gangs and organized crime groups.” These gang groups are working the illegal drug industry. Venezuela is the leading drug hub of South America.

Legalization would affect the supply side of the curve. It would saturate the market and the profit would drop out. You are correct. It would increase the users and the costs due to the mental side effects would be costly. As people find out the realities of these costs, the demand should go down as knowledge increases. We will know soon enough what happens when Washington State and Colorado will soon allow pot sales.

I have been thinking that a way to destroy the illegal drug culture is to sabotage the consumer market and thus, the demand side of the curve. How do you do that? By flooding the market with consumers who are not drug addicts but people involved in sting operations. When the pusher is not certain if his customer will set in motion his arrest, the risk selling the product will be so high it will crash the system. I think today’s high tech advances could facilitate such a program.


42 posted on 09/22/2013 2:13:23 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

Handing out meth to 3rd graders is the answer!

of course


43 posted on 09/22/2013 2:21:47 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Haiku Guy

I would call this article intellectual masturbation, but that would be an abuse of the word “intellectual.”


44 posted on 09/22/2013 2:31:57 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: sten

what’s out of control is... mental patients

until they start putting mental patients into mental hospitals, i’ll believe they intend for all the random shootings to happen... so they can grab for guns
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When I was growing up it was common practice to send people with mental problems to asylums for treatment. I think it was stopped during a Dem President’s admin., which led to the prevailing “homeless on the street” population we now have to deal with on a daily basis. ....Many cities are running the ‘homeless’ out of the business and tourist districts. .....At the same time, MANY of the SANE just claim to be ‘homeless’, etc., and take home hundreds of $$ every day from begging in prime areas. Don’t feed the beggars by giving them money.


45 posted on 09/22/2013 3:08:43 AM PDT by octex
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To: Slings and Arrows

The author interestingly omits the 100+ million innocent people slaughted by communist and fascist dictatorial regimes in Europe alone since the beginning of the 20th Century. The fact those regimes first confiscated privately owned weapons is a rather inconvenient truth to those who advocate what they’d like us to believe are “reasonable” restrictions.

Harry apparently doesn’t know we saw the images of unarmed, defenseless Brits cowering and tut-tutting while animalistic muslims hacked to death that soldier. A few well-placed rounds from a concealed-carry 9mm would’ve stopped those two knuckledraggers dead.


46 posted on 09/22/2013 3:20:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The writer should ask Nigeria, Yemen and Kenya.

Well over 200 citizens shot the last few gays.


47 posted on 09/22/2013 4:13:49 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Vendome

Yeah, but the red hides blood stains really well. Blue helmets should be excellent, though, for spotting targets.

BTW, is your power out? Mine’s been out all night on the north end of Gilroy. (posting from my phone)


48 posted on 09/22/2013 4:37:09 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Smokin' Joe

Well, if it came down to crazy nuts like Porter invading us, we would have automatic weapons, rpgs, and the like. Do you think the richest people in the world would somehow be unable to get those items when people from the poorest cesspools in the world can get them? But it will never come down to that, and the idiot author knows that. He’s simply engaging in his own crack-cocaine inspired dreaming of the perfect Marxist world without free, armed people i.e.Americans.


49 posted on 09/22/2013 4:49:47 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Slings and Arrows

Correct term..........”self-defined intellectual”


50 posted on 09/22/2013 4:52:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Slings and Arrows
Shouldn't the world intervene?

If "the world" wants it's bloody arse kicked, why certainly!

51 posted on 09/22/2013 4:55:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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what’s out of control is... mental patients

Funny how the democrat voter role has all the same people registered.

52 posted on 09/22/2013 4:57:26 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Although it was brave of Howard Schultz,

Oh, yes that was so brave. Create Gun Free zones (which will inevitably lead unarmed people to slaughter by those who disregard all laws) while Sgt. Schultz most likely lives in a gated and armed community.

Hypocrites. Every one.
53 posted on 09/22/2013 4:59:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Viennacon

“That’s why your a mind controlled slave who doesn’t have any rights.”

Left wing brits are also cowards who allow their women and children to be raped by muslims in their UK cities:

UK: Yet another Muslim gang arrested for raping, sexually abusing, and pimping out teenage white girls, some as young as 13 years old...

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/05/10/uk-yet-another-muslim-gang-arrested-for-raping-sexually-abusing-and-pimping-out-teenage-white-girls-some-as-young-as-13-years-old/


54 posted on 09/22/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: driftless2
Well, if it came down to crazy nuts like Porter invading us, we would have automatic weapons, rpgs, and the like. Do you think the richest people in the world would somehow be unable to get those items when people from the poorest cesspools in the world can get them?

If nothing else, we'd make them.

That's what they don't seem to get.

These punk-a$$ed Marxists are still dealing with the most inventive people in the world, people who can still improvise well beyond what the average desert dwelling jihadi can whip up. If we can build it, they will never successfully ban it. If the need arises, we'll have what we need.

55 posted on 09/22/2013 6:04:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Does this Howard Schultz guy think that “suggesting” people don’t bring guns to Starbucks is going to change anything? For one thing, if some criminal type wanted to rob a Starbucks, do you think this would stop him? And does he think that law-abiding gun-owning citizens that legally carry a gun into his Starbucks are the problem? Making Starbucks a “suggested” gun-free zone is not only stupid in it’s ignorance, but gives the armed robbers another target where folks can’t shoot back.

These lefties don’t think through their rationale far enough to see the unintended consequences of their actions. Their mouths run faster than their brains.


56 posted on 09/22/2013 6:06:51 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Smokin' Joe

The invasion of the effete will never happen. Many Euros have an abnormal, irrational hatred of all firearms. Especially Brits. I doubt the homicide rate was much higher before Britain passed severe restrictions on all gun-owners, but their petty crime rate sure has risen dramatically. My wife and I just returned from a vacation out west with one of her Brit sisters and bros-in-law. The b-in-law was astonished that national park rangers carried firearms. I had to explain to him about dangerous animals (and sometimes humans) out west. They’re of the opinion that if we, humans, could simply get rid of all guns, nobody would kill anybody else.


57 posted on 09/22/2013 6:14:24 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Slings and Arrows

Should the world intervene?

Come on down! Hey, be sure and wear those baby blue helmets.


58 posted on 09/22/2013 6:25:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Slings and Arrows
Although it was brave of Howard Schultz, the company's chief executive, to go even this far in a country where people are better armed and only slightly less nervy than rebel fighters in Syria

Damn right A$$hole that's what the founders gave us to make sure little wordlist like you don't impose your liberal bull$#!t on us!!!

59 posted on 09/22/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: Paladin2

I don’t know, there’s something actually appealing about sending UN blue helmets into US inner cities to clean out the Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings, MS13, etc ....


60 posted on 09/22/2013 7:12:16 AM PDT by tanknetter
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