Posted on 09/20/2013 7:14:17 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
On the surface, the House GOP was in pep-rally mode as they headed into one of their most serious conflicts with President Obama since Republicans took the House in 2010.
Lawmakers have been bragging about the unity behind closed doors since Speaker John Boehner embraced the strategy of trying to defund Obamacare through the government-funding bill. And at a rally after the vote, dozens of lawmakers cheered lustily as Majority Leader Eric Cantor delivered a remarkably political speech that specifically targeted a series of vulnerable Senate Democrats up for reelection.
Underneath the surface, the same fault lines are still there and will inevitably come back to the fore.
Representative Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania asked a pointed question to colleagues at the closed-door GOP conference meeting Friday morning. Sure, he said, we’re treating Speaker John Boehner like it’s Palm Sunday — laying down palm fronds and carrying him into Jerusalem.
“But will be be crucifying him a week from now?” Kelly asked.
For at least a few days, the fight will be in the Senate, where Senator Ted Cruz is starting to rally colleagues to filibuster the House bill for fear that Reid will strip its provision defunding Obamacare from it.
“Any Republican who votes for cloture is voting to fund Obamacare,” Matt Hoskins, the executive director for the Senate Conservatives Fund, said in a press release.
Yesterday, several Republicans — Bob Corker, John Cornyn, and Richard Burr — said they would vote to invoke cloture, given that when the vote occurs, it is likely to be on an intact House bill that includes the defunding provision.
Assuming Reid successfully detaches the Obamacare provision from the CR and sends it back to the House, Boehner and Cantor will face several difficult decisions.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Yeah, it will be a storm if the gop wing of the uniparty resorts to it’s usual tactics of betrayal. But deathcare is really kind of the warm up to the hurricane that’s coming after deathcare. Because what comes after further betrayal is likely to be a concerted push for national divorce.
The seceshers are waiting in the wings.
PING!
This bill MUST be killed in Senate, that is where the resistance is. Cruz and CO MUST kill it there. It must be Reids failure.
Forget the House, if Reid gets his CR passed to the house its over,
Wrong. Boehner, Ryan, et al, have proven they are incapable of winning the debt ceiling battle. They will cave in a New York minute, just like last time.
"Very few Republicans privately believe Obama will agree to delay the entirety of Obamacare for any length of time, but there is much discussion he may go for delaying the individual mandate, the medical-device tax, or other unpopular provisions."
Wrong again. We don't need Obama's agreement or approval to defund. If the House doesn't cave and pass a bill funding ObamaCare, there is no bill for him to approve. They should hold the line and reject whatever the senate sends back, then begin passing a series of bills to fund individual departments, agencies and programs one at a time.
Pass bills to fund the "essential" departments, agencies and programs only. Social security, medicare, the military, the federal courts, the congress, the post office, the patents and copyrights office, the mint, the border patrol, a minimal IRS tax processing and collection agency (no funds to be used for non-income tax functions), etc, but zero for the unconstitutional ObamaCare. And who is the final arbiter of what's constitutional? We the people, of course. We nullify it through our elected reps.
And zero for the federal departments of commerce, agriculture, labor, energy, transportation, health, education, welfare, housing, the EPA, the DEA, etc., etc. All of these functions are reserved to the states and the people per the constitution.
Some of these essential agencies are automatically funded anyway, so all really essential government services will continue. Let Obama/Reid shut the rest of it down if they wish. They'll lose big in 2014/16.
Reid will not pass this unless obamacare is funded. It’s essential to the survival of the nation that the House holds the line and rejects whatever the senate passes back to them. See my post just above.
Reid will win. Cruz doesn’t have the votes. The Speaker will roll over like the spineless b@st@rd he is. And it will be over. Want to win this? When a bill is returned from the senate, re-approve the initial bill, send it to the senate, adjourn the house, and return to your districts and start working to get the states to call a constitutional convention to eviscerate the federal governments power. Remove the power to tax! Limit the power to spend! Eliminate judicial review. Eliminate federal regulatory bodies. Eliminate all transfer payments!
We all know what Bohner, Ryan and Cantor are planning with this. They are telegraphing it now.
Don’t be surprised if that Farm bill that lost the vote shows up again in the next week.
I think that runs out this month too.
Bachmann: ObamaCare will either be defunded or delayed
9-20-13
Dr, Carson: ObamaCare not for and by the people
Professor Emeritus of Neurosurgery at John Hopkins University says most Americans do not want Obama’s Affordable Care Act, urges people to take a stand
In that clip you posted Bachman said to call your Senators to fight there, also that she doesn’t expect a shutdown, and then she said its either the CR or the debt limit that will kik Obama-care.
Ted Cruz outlines game plan: Fund government piece by piece, leave Obamacare out
That would be something. Such a clueless bunch congress is. HHH and LBJ would be so proud.
Amen!
Go, Ted, GO!
??? I just saw Cruz on Cavuto DVRed today and he was praising GOP Republicans for passing their CR. He also said its an iterative process, you win some you lose some.
The weak link in that plan is Bohner and CO. You know exactly what they are planning as I told you the other day on your other thread here see #17
Was I not posting the obvious?
I am really curious to see how many are rallied to vote NO in the Senate, even though there is now there seems to be a general dark cloud of defeatism in that fight which is unfortunate.
The senate vote will be interesting. The usual suspects will be siding with the dims.
Actually, I think most won’t side with the Dems. There’s no downside if they don’t. The bill won’t be overridden.
We need to shut the mother down. Paying the piper now staves off gangrene.
Maybe Boehner is sweating his primary challenge?
Simply reattach it and send it back...or would that be too easy?
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