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Marines Had Weapons, But No Ammo During Navy Yard Shooting (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | September 18, 2013 | Andrea Ryan

Posted on 09/18/2013 11:32:52 AM PDT by Hojczyk

“If everybody had arms then there wouldn’t be these problems…my son was at … Navy Yard yesterday (9/16/13) and they had weapons with them, but they didn’t have ammunition. And they said, ‘We were trained and if we had had the ammunition we could have cleared that building. Only three people had been shot at that time and they could have stopped the rest of it.’”

No 2nd Amendment for the U.S. military? Only Liberals can take violating our Constitutional rights to beyond the absurd.

So, Homeland Security gets a couple billion rounds of ammunition, but the military doesn’t get any. That’s disturbing.

On Monday, a crazed gunman killed 12 innocent people, and injured over a dozen more, in a Washington, D.C. Navy Shipyard. It didn’t matter that it occurred on a military installation, because in 1993 Bill Clinton decreed that all U.S. military bases be “gun free zones”; thus denying the victims their 2nd Amendment right to defend themselves. But, it didn’t help those who did manage to be carrying a gun at the military base on Monday, because, apparently, it’s an ammunition-free zone, as well.

A dad describes how his Marine son at the Navy Yard on Monday had a gun, but wasn’t allowed the ammunition to go with it. A combination the Marine said would have stopped the shooter sooner, and would have saved lives.

Via NewsBusters, Navy Yard Shooting: Marines ‘had weapons… but no ammunition’

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aaronalexis; agenda; alexis; banglist; corruption; democrats; guncontrol; guns; navyshooting; navyyard; obama; secondamendment; usmc; washingtonnavyyard
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To: Veggie Todd

The boy in the whitehouse


21 posted on 09/18/2013 12:02:37 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: NEMDF

Sounds about right. A SWAT team makes it to the right address, at the right time, a near miraculous feat all by itself, and they are told to stand down.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 12:03:05 PM PDT by pallis
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To: carriage_hill

GWB and the Republicans had 6 straight years to fix a lot of things that were wrong. They used that 6 years to make more things wrong and now, we are supposed to trust them as the alternative to Obama and the Democrats? There is no way I will trust anyone simply because they have an “R” after their name and no longer will I ever vote for the lesser of two evils. Bush could have fixed the nonsense but was too busy spending money, creating the TSA and No Child Left Behind.


23 posted on 09/18/2013 12:03:25 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Hojczyk

Beirut in America.


24 posted on 09/18/2013 12:03:25 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Hojczyk
weapons with them, but they didn’t have ammunition

That's called a fence post. Having a fence post does not count as armed...
25 posted on 09/18/2013 12:07:41 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Hojczyk

In view of this, GIVE US BACK OUR AMMO —the 2 billion rounds.

WHAT is it for? Executing us..?

It is certainly not to deal with a legitimate defensive need.


26 posted on 09/18/2013 12:09:46 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Liberty Ship

Apparently not.


27 posted on 09/18/2013 12:10:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Hojczyk

At Columbine, a SWAT team in full battle rattle was on-scene in NO time.

Then per SOP they went no further —they waited for hours, hearing screaming and gunfire, doing nothing.

HOW HAVE THINGS CHANGED..?

LEO’s made huge hay of the fact that post-Columbine SWAT SOP’s had changed —that it wouldn’t happen like that again.

It HAS happened nearly like that again, and in the DC at a military base.

GIVE US BACK OUR AMMO.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 12:12:32 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Veggie Todd
Im so PO'ed I can barely see straight!

The BBC says a swat team was told to...STAND DOWN? we just cant have this!!






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29 posted on 09/18/2013 12:12:36 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Hojczyk
Reminds me of the story told in my family regarding the onset of the Spanish Civil War. It seems the government did not trust its own military, so it ordered rifles, bolts, bayonets, and ammunition to be stored in separate widely spread depots. When the time came to defend the Republic, officers had nothing but their riding crops, and their men had nothing but dismantled rifles. Still they charged across heavily defended plazas against entrenched machine gun positions, with tragically predictable results. - "Fear the government that fears your guns."
30 posted on 09/18/2013 12:17:43 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t believe soldiers and marines have had ready access to private or even issued arms during CONUS duty since the Korean war; this is not a new thing. I was active duty from ‘83-’90, both CONUS and ROK, and at each installation, perosnal arms had to be secured at the unit armory, and our issued arms were also stored there, only drawn during training, range, or in Korea, during alerts. Talking to a number of vets, this was the case at least back to the 1950’s... maybe even longer, but I don’t have data to support that. I agree that this is dumb, I thought so then, but trying to blame Obama for it just doesn’t hold water.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:32 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Hojczyk

This is what Democrats do: They arm our enemies and disarm Americans.


32 posted on 09/18/2013 12:37:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: trubolotta

100%.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 12:38:26 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: blueyon

Isn’t the death toll of the innocent already @24, from Ft Hood and now the Navy Yard? That’s not counting the injured and multiple generations of family members of the deceased and injured whose lives will never be the same?


34 posted on 09/18/2013 12:42:41 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: PowderMonkey
Marines Had Weapons, But No Ammo

I hate a headline like that. Same headline happened in Turkey a few times (Air Force and Army too) circa 1974-1979. Unfortunately, I've been there.

It has happened in other theaters, and embassies too.

Really sux.

5.56mm

35 posted on 09/18/2013 12:44:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hojczyk

shades of Beirut


36 posted on 09/18/2013 12:49:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: blackdog

I’d certainly vote yes.

I am watching/listening to “9/11 Voices From The Air” on National Geographic. It’s been years, yet it seems like yesterday.... my blood is still boiling. Everything Obama and his dems do, seem to beg for that nightmare to happen again.


37 posted on 09/18/2013 12:50:48 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the PING. I had not seen this before.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 1:07:55 PM PDT by zot
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To: Hojczyk

I would NEVER carry an unloaded weapon. Orders or not. That is basically the most stupid thing that you can do...........


39 posted on 09/18/2013 1:18:04 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Gator113
When we had a draft, the military had a different flavor to it. It was maleable for other purposes.

Not so much now.They are highly trained, focused, and coordinated with cutting edge technology and gear. The government fears them. It's why I think we will have a permanent war in lands far away for decades to come. They don't want them back unless they can declare them PTSD and prevent them from being armed as citizens. That comes with any Veterans Administration hospital visit. Even if it's for strep throat.

40 posted on 09/18/2013 1:28:07 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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