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Three-quarters of Americans think teachers paid less than they really are
Washington Examiner ^ | 9-16-13 | ASHE SCHOW

Posted on 09/16/2013 2:31:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Seventy-four percent of Americans think teachers make less than they really do, according to a new poll from Rasmussen. The average teacher salary in America is $55,000 (upward of $75,000 in Chicago), but three quarters of Americans think teachers earn less than that.

Over half of Americans (52 percent) believe teachers are paid too little. Just 15 percent believe they are paid too much while 26 percent think teachers are paid the right amount.

In a related poll, just 26 percent of Americans give public schools positive marks.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; perception; salaries; unions
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To: Gabz

My autistic grandson is fortunate to be in a special school in NY that is run by nuns, but they don’t teach anymore. They run the school, but the classes are taught by lay teachers. All of the teachers at that school qualify for sainthood, IMHO, because it is so difficult to teach these handicapped kids.

But, I don’t know any other place where the nuns are still teaching. There just aren’t enough of them left anymore.

My grandmother took her middle name from her favorite nun — Sister Zeta. Grandma loved Sr. Zita because she would turn the jump rope for the children. This was in the late 1800s in PA. Those days are gone forever. Sr. Zita was from a NY order, as I remember, and was a distant cousin. May she rest in peace and the Perpetual Light shine upon her forever.


61 posted on 09/16/2013 4:11:50 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: traditional1

I teach. I am not in a union. I work more than 9 months of the year. The calendar that was posted above is a student calendar, NOT a teacher’s calendar. On early release days teachers are required to undergo any number of trainings or conferences. More are required during the summer. I work from 7-5, Monday through Friday, and sometimes I still have to take work home. Work that is unpaid. There is no such thing as overtime. I do pay for many, many things for my classes out of my own pocket. I guarantee that most people couldn’t do my job. Why do you think there is such a high turnover rate among teachers? Most people quit within 7 years.

I don’t complain about my pay and I don’t earn anywhere near the national average. My district requires that teachers earn a masters degree in order to remain employed. I didn’t become a teacher for the pay. I didn’t become a teacher for the “time off.” In fact, I never even planned on becoming a teacher. I took a substitute teaching job after I graduated so that I would have some income until I got the job that I wanted. That was the plan, anyway. That is, until the first assignment that I had. The first time that I was able to show a student how to understand a concept that she had been having trouble with, I knew that this was the job that I would do for the rest of my life.

Yes, I do get more time off than most people. I won’t apologize for that. If you want that amount of time off as well, become a teacher yourself. If you do so, be prepared to have many, of not most of your preconceptions about teaching not only challenged, but changed. It isn’t easy, but it can be extremely rewarding. Falling into the trap of painting an entire group with broad brush generalizations is a piss poor liberal tactic and people here should know better. I teach in Texas and most of the people that I work with are conservatives who voted against 0bama.


62 posted on 09/16/2013 4:13:19 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Obviously not English teachers.

Nicely played.

63 posted on 09/16/2013 4:13:37 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: happyhomemaker; verga
(Liberals, homeschoolers and protestants, not all that different if you look closely enough)

Who said that...as I don't see that Verga made that statement.

Please point that post out to me...I don't have time to look it up.

64 posted on 09/16/2013 4:14:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange

Verga’s tagline.


65 posted on 09/16/2013 4:17:19 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check highlights every single word.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I ain't one...and never appeared nor wanted to be one.

Fair 'nuff? : )

66 posted on 09/16/2013 4:17:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Pan_Yan; verga
Well just hell.........

Wonders never cease.

67 posted on 09/16/2013 4:18:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: patriotsoul
Most of them, Every other person, Most teachers.

These are all unprovable generalizations that you can not support with facts. Good try but try again.

Teachers intelligence is constantly evaluated, observed by superiors, documented, and repeatedly tested. Yours Is?? Teachers also have parents for every student that are built in observers. Teachers and administration get constant feedback from that population as well.

There provable truth is that teachers intelligence is constantly checked and evaluated. You get to post and make unsupported claims with no supporting facts or provable truths and somehow you think that this makes you a credible evaluator and knowledgeable on this subject.

Schools districts are constantly looking for the abilities that you believe you have. If you have the education, knowledge, work history, degrees, and credentials, you should apply for these good paying jobs. Oh, you don't??? Then I'll leave you with your tin foil hat in your own reality.

68 posted on 09/16/2013 4:28:53 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Osage Orange

Hell, I’m a high school drop out (with a GED) who did just fine in robotics and even went on to run my department. I dated a Serbian PhD/sociologist and she was disgusted by the sheer arrogance of most of her “colleagues” here in the USA.

She pointed out that their arrogance made them virtually incapable of learning and left them helpless when conveniences weren’t immediately available. She laid under the car with me once and learned to change the oil and filter as well as changing the air filter and checking fluid levels before we took a road trip up north.

My brother in law is educated the same way. We had a flat tire one day and he was ready to call a wrecker and rent a car. I put the spare on the car and we went to a garage to fix the tire. The guy at the garage said it would be a couple of hours but we offered him double price and were on the road again in 15 minutes without my bro in law spending a few hundred bucks.


69 posted on 09/16/2013 4:31:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gop4lyf
Good post.

I'm a teacher too.

But I've not a degree in that field.

I do have a degree though...and have been a clinical instructor....

I did serve as the principal of my girls home schooling. But my wife...a non college educated woman basically taught both of them. I did some...but my wife was the ramrod. She did a great job!!

My girls are both very well rounded educated smart realistic Conservative young professional women now.

I'm pretty happy with the results...

And I continue to be a "teacher"...in my field and in my life.

70 posted on 09/16/2013 4:31:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I agree there are not that many teaching nuns any longer, but I do know they are still teaching at my alma mater High School and probably about the same proportion as when I was there in the 70s. That school is run by the School Sisters of Notre Dame, and has been for nearly 100 years, teaching does matter to them.


71 posted on 09/16/2013 4:38:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Daveinyork

My wife has been a teacher in Texas her for 15 years. I will tell you that the benefits here are pathetic. She is on my insurance because hers gets worse and more expensive every time.


72 posted on 09/16/2013 4:38:43 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Unlike teachers, truck drivers are paid what their labor is worth in the marketplace.

Unfortunate but true. Its one of the reasons that true long haul trucking is largely disappearing. Its just cheaper to ship things long distance by rail and then put them on trucks for the last 4 or 5 hundred miles.

If I were a truck driver I would want to work for a factory for an hourly rate. The last factory I worked at paid their drivers $12 to $15 per hour for 8 to 10 hour days of multiple trips of 50 to 100 miles.
73 posted on 09/16/2013 4:40:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
The guy at the garage said it would be a couple of hours but we offered him double price and were on the road again in 15 minutes without my bro in law spending a few hundred bucks.

You wouldn't believe the quality of service I've gotten by hauling in a 12 pack, but then again you probably would. ;)

74 posted on 09/16/2013 4:41:39 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Beware the real marauding zombies of the near future.

Teachers, civil servants kick off week of strikes in Greece
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3067499/posts


75 posted on 09/16/2013 4:43:26 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Orange1998

The Texas pension is a joke. My inlaws are both retired teachers. When they were young enough they took on jobs. But now they can’t. There is nothing lucrative about teacher retirement pension in Texas.


76 posted on 09/16/2013 4:44:08 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
You wouldn't believe the quality of service I've gotten by hauling in a 12 pack, but then again you probably would. ;)

I'm blue collar. I know how to get things done while fiscally unstimulated.
77 posted on 09/16/2013 4:44:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: oldenuff2no

I know cops who retired at 50 years old, now collecting $80,000+ per year for life...And their spouses are covered too...lol

This is not to mention his and her gold sealed medical and other benefits...

This goes on in govenrment at *ALL* levels...

No joke.


78 posted on 09/16/2013 4:50:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gop4lyf
How many WORK days do you have per year?

What is the Retirement Plan you have? What are the Medical Benefits that you have?

Are there ANY means used to test teachers' effectiveness, with a penalty of dismissal for poor performance (i.e., students who can't pass Standardized Tests, AND, cannot pass the SAT Tests, for example).

I agree, there are a few that still teach because they WANT to teach, but far too many are in the field that couldn't survive in a private sector/non-union job, due to lack of performance and production....that's just the way it is today, and the mandatory Degree requirements do NOT mean a teacher is competent; it merely means they've passed exams that prove that they passed an exam, no more, no less. I'm un-impressed with Academic Credentials, as I've seen the bulk of the recent College-Educated "intellectuals" who I wouldn't hire as custodians.

79 posted on 09/16/2013 4:50:10 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: familyop

the key words are “Americans think”, the voting majority have no idea what “think” is


80 posted on 09/16/2013 4:50:47 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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