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To: PotatoChop

Dear FRiend Potatochop,

First, I think of myself as a member of the Tea Party (”Taxed Enough Already”) patriots.

Second, I want to repeal ALL of Obamacare, as do a majority of Americans. That repeal would have happened ALREADY if Romney had been elected with coattails that also produced a Senate with a Republican majority. But it didn’t.

Third, I think that a majority of Americans does NOT want to shut down our government for a day, week, month, or however long it takes for Obama to beat our elected Representatives into submission to “the will of the majority” — you know, the same majority that does NOT want to shut down our government at all.

Fourth, a government shutdown will be much more painful than a 5PM whistle. As the “sequester” showed, our Chief Executive is determined to create AS MUCH PAIN AS POSSIBLE, isn’t he?

And even before that deliberately maximized pain is applied, most American citizens do NOT want a government shutdown:
(a) People who need their Social Security checks don’t. (b) Soldiers in Afghanistan whose families struggle to live within their military paychecks don’t.
(c) Veterans receiving medical care, don’t.
(d) Retirees living on interest from government bonds, don’t.
(e) Doctors and nurses who would not be paid, if government medical “reimbursements” stop, don’t.
(f) College students, tornado victimes, weather-persons?, judges, prison guards, border patrol, you-name-it, DON”T.

Fifth, isn’t this the same White House that said, “Never let a crisis go to waste!”? And doesn’t this White House NEED a crisis NOW to divert Americans from linking the worst presidency ever to corrupt Democrat candidates BEFORE the 2014 elections. BEFORE Democrats and Independents decide to vote Republican?

IMHO, the 2014 campaign has already started. Our media are already helping Obama spin the “rope” in his plan to “rope-a-dope” us Republicans. Obama knows that he can put the blame for causing a government shutdown on our “Tea Party” — if we just give him the chance.

Obama wants to make the 2014 election a referendum on “no-government-shut-downs”, where HE has the majority of Americans with him.

Obama does not want the 2014 election to be a referendum on Obamacare, Obamanomics, Obama-spying, Obama-cronyism etc. where REPUBLICANS have the majority.

So I say let’s NOT give Obama his heart’s desire. INSTEAD, let’s elect Republican majorities in both the House and the Senate in 2014. That is the best chance we have to repeal Obamacare.

How big must our majorities BE to override Obama’s threatened veto of repeal? THAT tells you how many seats we have to take. Let’s make our 2014 slogan “END OBAMACARE, VOTE GOP”!

Attempting to repeal Obamacare with only a majority in the House would be a little like trying to win the Battle of Midway without our dive-bombers.

The pilots of our torpedo planes were all brave patriots who did their best — but they died without damaging any Japanese carrier. Not any.

So please.

Let’s not SEEK a battle when we are at half strength and carry defective weapons...

Let’s not SEEK our own defeat...


62 posted on 09/17/2013 6:46:16 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: pfony1

Ummm, sorry to rain on your parade, but can you tell me ANYTHING the GOP have rescinded/removed/de-funded/abolished/etc. when they HAD the majority?

Was it not the same group that (happily) gave us the Patriot Act (renewal), TSA, NSA, No Child Left Behind, Medicare/caid expansion, Voting Rights Act renewal, amnesty etc. etc. etc.

I fail to see why you still have faith in these Judas


63 posted on 09/17/2013 6:53:59 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: pfony1
“Let’s not SEEK our own defeat...”

Except, your defeated BEFORE the fight begins if you except defeat before you even attempt to fight.

Most if not all of your [reasons} for not passing a CR that runs the government is supported by conjecture and innuendo, e.g. “And even before that deliberately maximized pain is applied, most American citizens do NOT want a government shutdown:
(a) People who need their Social Security checks don’t. (b) Soldiers in Afghanistan whose families struggle to live within their military paychecks don’t.
(c) Veterans receiving medical care, don’t.
(d) Retirees living on interest from government bonds, don’t.
(e) Doctors and nurses who would not be paid, if government medical “reimbursements” stop, don’t.
(f) College students, tornado victimes, (SIC) weather-persons?, judges, prison guards, border patrol, you-name-it, DON”T.” supposes they will not receive government support, except those [hand-outs] are already mandated and do not stop when the government shuts down.

Another example of conjecture on your part is:”Second, I want to repeal ALL of Obamacare, as do a majority of Americans. That repeal would have happened ALREADY if Romney had been elected with coattails that also produced a Senate with a Republican majority. But it didn't’t.” If I remember correctly, the mantra from the Romney (Mass. social healthcare architect) campaign was “repeal and REPLACE” except, the majority of Americans do not want Nationalized Health care period! This is why so many Americans stayed home and did not vote at all.

With the majority of Americans behind defunding Obamacare by drafting a continuing resolution (CR) to fund the government and NOT providing any funds to implement Obamacare, the only party that would be so called “shutting down the government” would the democrats who would have to vote down the CR in order to deny any law that would defund Obamacare and without the CR, the government could not spend anymore of the tax payers dollars at all.

Giving up before the fight is defeat without firing single shot and your enemy wins. How many times have we heard form the RINO’s: “not this time, this is the wrong time to stand and fight, we must wait till the next time.” Well this is the fourth or fifth “next time” and it is time to stand and fight, kin of like the sequester that Obama through in the mix, never expecting the conservatives to go along with it, except they did, and guess what, the majority of Americans support it! What a shock to the socialist democrats who could not believe the GOP would go along with sequester since it also cut the military, but, they did and it is working because the American people can see right through Obama’s “make it hurt” tactic. The American people will see right through the socialist democrat's play book when they shut down the government and then blame the conservatives for it! Some times you have to allow an infection to come to a head before it will heal, now is the time to stand and fight, not surrender in defeat BEFORE you fight!

64 posted on 09/17/2013 7:36:46 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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