[SkyPilot]

Obama will not, not, not abandon his signature legislation. The GOP does not control the Senate or White House, which both are needed for a short term CR, much less to raise the debt ceiling 2 weeks later and then an agreement on year long CR or budget (unlikely....again).

Every staunch Tea Party member over 65 shouts loudly, but when it comes to their SS or Medicare, they demand any government shutdown "exempt" them.

Watch.

[Principled]

gov’t shutdown does not end SS or even keep the checks from rolling out.

The only thing that stops the checks is an executive decision.

jeez

[Principled]

ok SYPILOT when I read my post, it seemed to say “jeez” to you. Apologies that was unintentional and I regret that I did that.

Jeez is for the propogandists who will push the senior scares..

[PubliusMM]

It is to be expected that Zero and 0bamunists won’t abandon ACA. However, that does NOT preclude the HOUSE (where funding bills originate) from passing CR’s or even a BALANCED BUDGET that expressly names ACA as UNFUNDED.
Pass that, then call all the press outlets in the country for the announcement that it’s been done and HANDED OFF TO THE SENATE, with the clear message that it is now up to the dhimmicraps. It will be on them if the government shuts down (arguably not a bad thing...).
Unfortunately, the pubbies don’t have the backbone for this fight, and it looks like the surrender monkeys will again have their way.

[LibLieSlayer]

Fine dude then give me my money back that I have paid into it and kill the programs. I never wanted a damned dime but they have taken from me and taken from me and I am now 58. If not... should we just gift the Fed with our stolen funds and then cancel the programs? I’ll tell you this... get them to do away with both SS and Medicare and defund obamacare and I will forgo ever collecting a dime of my money. I would gladly lose all that I have paid into these redistribution programs to start to cancel socialism in America.

[Jim Noble]

You are correct that ALL of the core problem with the budget and the deficit is caused by Medicare, and that until Medicare, not "Obamacare", is repealed we will never get out of this mess.

In fact, the reason the GOP secretly supports Obamacare and will never do anything to hinder it is that Obamacare, bad as it is, starts us on the road to killing Medicare.