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To: SkyPilot

It is to be expected that Zero and 0bamunists won’t abandon ACA. However, that does NOT preclude the HOUSE (where funding bills originate) from passing CR’s or even a BALANCED BUDGET that expressly names ACA as UNFUNDED.
Pass that, then call all the press outlets in the country for the announcement that it’s been done and HANDED OFF TO THE SENATE, with the clear message that it is now up to the dhimmicraps. It will be on them if the government shuts down (arguably not a bad thing...).
Unfortunately, the pubbies don’t have the backbone for this fight, and it looks like the surrender monkeys will again have their way.


5 posted on 09/16/2013 4:02:42 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: PubliusMM
However, that does NOT preclude the HOUSE (where funding bills originate) from passing CR’s or even a BALANCED BUDGET that expressly names ACA as UNFUNDED.

That is what Sean Hannity and a lot of people are repeating, over and over again.

I am not a Constitutional scholar (like Obama is!), however, that language in the Constitution refers to Appropriations bills, which are not the same as a Continuing Resolution. All a CR does is keep spending levels at last year's levels or at current levels, because there is no agreed upon Appropriations. Budgets are political documents, it is Appropriations that have the binding authority of law to spend money. Guess what? The House has only voted on a couple of the 12 Appropriations bills for FY14, and there also has been no Conference called to work out differences between the Senate budget that passed this year (the first since 2009), and the House budget.

An appropriation bill is used to actually provide money to "discretionary" programs. Appropriations are generally done on an annual basis, although multi-year appropriations are occasionally passed. According to the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, clause 12), Army appropriations cannot be for more than two years at a time. An annual appropriation requires that the funds appropriated be obligated (spent) by the end of the fiscal year of the appropriation. Once the fiscal year ends, no more money can be spent via the prior year's appropriation. A new appropriation for the new fiscal year must be passed in order for continued spending to occur, or passage of a special appropriations bill known as a continuing resolution, which generally permits continued spending for a short period of time—usually at prior year levels. The Anti-Deficiency Act makes void any attempt to spend money for which there is no current appropriation. According to the Origination Clause of the United States Constitution, all bills relating to revenue, generally tax bills, must originate in the House of Representatives, consistent with the Westminster system requiring all money bills to originate in the lower house which is why the appropriations bills that are enacted begin with "H.R.", indicating a bill that originated in the House. The Constitution also states that the "Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills," so in practice, the Senate and House each drafts and considers its own bill. The Senate then "cuts-and-pastes", substituting the language of its bill of a particular appropriations bill for the language of House bill, then agrees to the bill as amended."

In either case, for the CR to pass, the Senate must agree, and the President must sign it. Period.

10 posted on 09/16/2013 5:47:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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