Posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights
Two-thirds of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want their member of Congress to “keep their promises and stick to principles” as opposed to “compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”
“From Obamacare on down, sticking to principle is where the Republican base is today,” said David Kirby, vice president of opinion research at FreedomWorks. “It’s an example of how off the Republican establishment is from their base.”
Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues. Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about; another third said it is not in the top three but somewhere in the top 10 and the final third said it is not one of their top 10 concerns.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/poll-republicans-libertarian-96576.html#ixzz2ecUQmr3o
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So that’s why they support limited government? I support limited government because I know the human heart is bad and prone to tyrannize its citizenry via a big state.
And yet here you are, complaining to someone who wants to see the government out of the business of forcing you to accept how they choose to live. Sounds like your real problem is that you want government to force others to live the way you want them to. I'm almost taken aback at your short sightedness on this. There is no other group out there who will stand by you for gun rights, lower taxes and small government. But hey, go on burning all those bridges. I really don't care because I know the democrats will be more than happy to treat us just as badly as you do.
Yeah, but his "excuse" is that that is the law, since nine justices ruled in favor of Roe v Wade. I detest that sob, and quit listening to him after I retired. I just listened to his show for that station's "every ten minutes" traffic reports.
A truly surreal thread.
Assuming that the powers that be don’t get us all incinerated in the coming months, we should have plenty of time to discuss the respective merits of libertarian versus conservative utopias as we’re marched off to Camp Napolitano.
(/sarcasm and scorn)
I’m not sure very many actually read the article you posted.
What I took from the article is that more Republicans agree with the libertarian view of the role of government.
People want to be left alone. They don’t want to be spied on, they don’t want to have universal health insurance requirements dictated by the government, they don’t want a government “safety net” of free cell phones, never-ending unemployment, etc that is destroying our economy while running up the debt, they don’t want to be felt up by TSA agents.....and the list goes on and on and on......
On top of all that, they want the Constitution to be upheld...things like the second amendment, the fourth, etc.
Libertarian ideology and Republican ideology are not all that different on a lot of the issues that are front and center today.
Thank You for some commonsense.
The point that I'm trying to make is those values (insert moral code) can only originate from one of two places. The moral code is either based on Scripture or man's heart. If libertarians come into the PUB party and insist that social conservatives ignore the moral code given to us by GOD for a moral code created by men the Pub party will lose as many as it gains.
At some point libertarians have to reconcile what is the foundation of their moral code and accept that govt exists to maintain it.
/johnny
Exactly right!
I do welcome libertarians, but I also recognize that there is going to be a need to discuss why we do need govt and what it's role should be.
Not if the answer is not to the point.
I had a similar thought. The one area that jumped out for me is the gap between the "social conservatives" and libertarians.
Well, like I said, I am still trying to find a single conservative in that list from post #71.
Mr. Stephen Moore is still not exactly right when he characterized Jesus as not being a “fan” of tax collectors. He at least regarded the collectors thereof (rather than the imposers) as more redeemable than the priests of that day, if Matthew 21:31 is any guide.
Yes, it is. It was kind of a joke, in that right before I signed up on FR, I was watching B5 with a girl who mentioned that I looked (somewhat), sounded, and had the same mannerisms as him. Plus, I go for girls with big head bones.
you have it wrong much like the homostapo always does.
Democrats, treat you badly , hell you are in agreement with the communist rules of 1963, ever thought about that and looked at how many are being done over because of homosexuality and soon drugs, polygamy, bestiality etc?
do you want Govt to tell people what age to have sex and who with?
Do you want to have Govt to have laws banning sex in public?
Do you want Govt to have laws about a father having sex with his daughter ?\
Do you want Govt to stop you having sex with animals in public?
Do you want Govt to have laws to not let druggies sell drugs next to a little kids schools?
No you don’t and that is why I think liberal tarians, communists, socialist are scumbags and sick perverted @@@@@@@@@@
Libertopians want a world where you can marry as many 7 year olds as you like, even your own kids who you can give drugs to to persuade them.
It can not work, such a society would not last long.
WHy is it not working they will ask. They will blame those who dissent, as always. Then the punishments for the scapegoats will have to be found.
The Libertarians might say they want no government coercion but you can bet that dissenters will not be tolerated and they will be persecuted.
Well you can say that Bush and the Congressional Republicans during the Bush years were not conservative.
There is ample evidence to back up the assertion they were not conservative.
However, they are the public face of social conservatism and they were the ones the Evangelicals voted for. So the " true social conservatives" don't escape the blame for the damage caused by the people they voted for.
That is what the young Republicans are rebelling against.
I would get rid of 98% of the federal government and you still call me a big government nanny stater.
Then you wonder why we can’t just along in the same party.
Libertopians are as crazy as socialists
You’re the type of dude I’m talking about. You were the guy who wanted to throw Johnny Football in prison for having a beer at 20 years old. You’re the guy who equated pedophilia with a SEC QB having a good time on the town. Dude, wake up. Ever wonder that you might be the oddball, because you sound like one.
They were the “public face of social conservatism” only because the liberals said they were. What they actually were was a different story altogether, and they were so described by many other non-liberal media. And true social conservatives cannot accept blame for a mere image the liberals painted.
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