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NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans' data with Israel
UK Guardian ^ | September 11, 2013 | Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 09/11/2013 8:14:35 AM PDT by don-o

• Secret deal places no legal limits on use of data by Israelis • Only official US government communications protected • Agency insists it complies with rules governing privacy • Read the NSA and Israel's 'memorandum of understanding'

The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.

Details of the intelligence-sharing agreement are laid out in a memorandum of understanding between the NSA and its Israeli counterpart that shows the US government handed over intercepted communications likely to contain phone calls and emails of American citizens. The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis.

The disclosure that the NSA agreed to provide raw intelligence data to a foreign country contrasts with assurances from the Obama administration that there are rigorous safeguards to protect the privacy of US citizens caught in the dragnet. The intelligence community calls this process "minimization", but the memorandum makes clear that the information shared with the Israelis would be in its pre-minimized state.

The deal was reached in principle in March 2009, according to the undated memorandum, which lays out the ground rules for the intelligence sharing.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nsa
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1 posted on 09/11/2013 8:14:35 AM PDT by don-o
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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2 posted on 09/11/2013 8:17:10 AM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: don-o

Only the Israelis? How about the Germans, the Brits, the Egyptians, the Turks, etc etc,,,

It seems unlikely we provided it to exactly one nation.


3 posted on 09/11/2013 8:18:08 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: don-o

Interesting considering how much Barakula hates Israel.


4 posted on 09/11/2013 8:18:09 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: don-o

I'd feel several orders of magnitude MORE secure if all my 'data' was in the hands of the Israelis, instead of these current treasonous maggots.

5 posted on 09/11/2013 8:21:16 AM PDT by tomkat ( if you don't wake up angry, you're not paying attention)
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To: don-o

The agreement places no legally binding limits on the use of the data by the Israelis
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Sounds like a convenient arrangement to have the Israelis sift through the data for “good stuff” that could be used for purposes other than national security. Just sayin...


6 posted on 09/11/2013 8:24:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: don-o; Jane Long; All

We are 290 to 300 Million True American Citizens who legally vote, plus 20 to 30 Million Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico who illegally vote.

Our sorry US Federal Government is currently run by 3 elected politicians and one appointed lawyer, as follows:

1.) Our POS Chief Executive Order Giver
2.) The POS Sobber of the House of Representatives
3.) The POS Majority Leader of the US Senate, and
4.) Any POS swing voter in THE NINE SUPREMES.

Question: “Now just where did I put my pitchfork?”

[Maybe I put it in my Minuteman Closet next to my snare drum? I know that it will be in the last place that I look - - - . “]

Ah! Here it is!

REMEMBER BENGHAZI !


7 posted on 09/11/2013 8:26:33 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: DesertRhino

I somehow imagine loads of foreign corporate espionage resulting from this practice.


8 posted on 09/11/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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How they see us...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

9 posted on 09/11/2013 8:33:04 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Graewoulf

REMEMBER BENGHAZI !

Amen...We Will NEVER Forget.

10 posted on 09/11/2013 8:35:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: don-o

Oh! So it’s okay now for all us war-mongering, Israeli-sympathizer citizens who view the bible and Israel’s role in its telling as God’s word to feel better that the NSA shares something that is expressly prohibited by our US Constitution re: government intrusion?

Hey everybody! Obama isn’t using the NSA to spy on us and use everything it collects to PUNISH us! He’s using it to help Israel...I guess that God is saying it’s okay now, huh?


11 posted on 09/11/2013 8:38:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: don-o

Good. At least somebody who is responsible can use it.


12 posted on 09/11/2013 8:38:52 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: don-o
Since when is Israel the 51st state?

These revelations keep getting worse.

13 posted on 09/11/2013 8:42:58 AM PDT by gdani
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PING!


14 posted on 09/11/2013 8:54:26 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: don-o

They also share all information with the UK, and others, even Canada.


15 posted on 09/11/2013 9:10:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: null and void

the NSA is completely out of control


16 posted on 09/11/2013 11:02:55 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: don-o

I trust the Israelis to go after the muslims with this data. Our gov’t will go after R’s & Tea Partiers.


17 posted on 09/11/2013 11:54:45 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: don-o

Please nobody tell the Pollard supporters on this site about it.


18 posted on 09/11/2013 3:42:30 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: null and void

If you don’t want to attract NSA or Mossad attention, just don’t use words like:

NCCS Mayfly PGP PEM RSA Perl-RSA MSNBC bet AOL AOL TOS CIS CBOT AIMSX STARLAN 3B2 BITNET COSMOS DATTA E911 FCIC HTCIA IACIS UT/RUS JANET JICC ReMOB LEETAC Boom goes the dynomite UTU VNET BRLO BZ CANSLO CBNRC CIDA JAVA Active X Compsec 97 LLC DERA Mavricks Meta-hackers ^? Steve Case Tools Telex Military Intelligence Scully Flame Infowar Bubba Freeh Archives Sundevil jack Investigation ISACA NCSA spook words Verisign Secure ASIO Lebed ICE NRO Lexis-Nexis NSCT SCIF FLiR Lacrosse

or other NSA trigger words.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H5gx3URKnEfSGLnH_EGOBiKptr2cfFXFXvqIj6ay3KM/edit?pli=1

Oh, wait ... I just used NSA trigger words. Well, then FUVM NSA and FUVM Mossad.

Note that Alex Jones’s Infowar site is on the list. I suppose conspiracy theories can be infinitely recursive (The NSA seems to have a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.)


19 posted on 09/11/2013 5:49:01 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Starboard

This is actually pretty clever on the part of the NSA.

NSA procedures prevent NSA employees from investigating US persons in most cases if communications are entirely within the US. That way most NSA employees can feel like they aren’t violating the inalienable rights of their countrymen. However, if all data are sent to Israel, their signals people can process the data and investigate triggered communications.

Sure, the source document cited by the Guardian article stipulates that 4th Amendment guarantees are to be upheld. And, if you believe that interpretation corresponds to the plain meaning of the words of the 4th Amendment, well, think again. And, if you believe Israeli intelligence services cares about any interpretation of the 4th Amendment, you’re hopeless.


20 posted on 09/11/2013 5:55:46 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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