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To: maggief

I remember how Lyndon Johnson wanted a Vietnam War and how he started the war.

Gulf of Tonkin Incident: False Flag For War In Vietnam
Posted by Abrams Hap

facts-about-vietnam-war-memorialPosted by Abrams Hap
Opsec News
May 23, 2013

This article will show that President Lyndon B. Johnson twisted the Gulf of Tonkin incident into a False Flag to start a war between America and North Vietnam. His actions would lead to the deaths of 58,220 Americans and an untold number of Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the name given to two separate confrontations involving North Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. Prior to the two incidents the U.S. had provided substantial aid to South Vietnam and also had a number of military advisers in South Vietnam.

The first incident took place on August 2, 1964, when the destroyer USS Maddox, engaged three North Vietnamese Navy torpedo boats seen approaching the Maddox. The Maddox fired first due to a belief they were under attack.

A sea battle resulted, in which the Maddox expended over two hundred and eighty 3-inch and 5-inch shells, and in which four USN F-8 Crusader jet fighter bombers strafed the torpedo boats. One US aircraft was damaged, one 14.5 mm round hit the destroyer. The three North Vietnamese torpedo boats were damaged, and four North Vietnamese sailors were killed. Six were wounded. There were no U.S. casualties, and no further U.S. action was taken.

vietnam_war_memorialThe second Tonkin Gulf incident was claimed to have taken place on August 4, 1964. During the hours of darkness, in rough weather and heavy seas, the Maddox and the Turner Joy reported receiving radar, and sonar signals believed caused by the North Vietnamese ships. Both the Maddox and the Turner reported multiple torpedos launched by the North Vietnamese. For some two hours the ships fired on ghost radar targets and maneuvered vigorously.

It was known quickly that no North Vietnamese ships had been in the vicinity, and no U.S. ships had been attacked. After the fraudulent second attack, LBJ capitalized on initial reports and ordered the bombing of four torpedo boat bases, and an oil-storage facility in Vinh.

Read at: http://www.opsecnews.com/gulf-of-tonkin-incident-false-flag-for-war-in-vietnam/


20 posted on 09/09/2013 7:21:12 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
"I remember how Lyndon Johnson wanted a Vietnam War and how he started the war. Gulf of Tonkin Incident: False Flag For War In Vietnam Posted by Abrams Hap"

LBJ went from being a so called great president with the liberals with his war on poverty, which is still being lost, to one of the worse presidents ever after he deepened the Nam War because of the so called Gulf of Tonkin event.

Now, Obozo Liar appears to be following in the footsteps of LBJ with his lies about Assad and Syria, while covering for the Muslim Brotherhood Thugs and al Queda in Syria.

"Obozo Liar is drawing us in and he will go with or without the consent of the Congress and the Consent of the Governed. This could be an impeachable act if he botches it and was not legally covered. What's it to him if a few US pilots get shot down, some guys get seriously injured in the cruise missile prep on our ships, Americans citizens are kidnapped by Hezbollah in Beirut,, US Embassy and consulates across the Middle East are MANPAD-ed with major strikes, and otherwise all hell breaks loose. Domestically, he can get NSA, Obozo care, Fox News wiretap-gate, IRS-gate and Benghazi off the front pages."

If Obozo Liar decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qaeda. Quite an alliance! The Islamic thugs/serial killers, who slaughtered thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11, will then be fighting alongside the very nation whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago.

35 posted on 09/09/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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To: KeyLargo
USS Maine, or what Hearst said "you furnish the pictures, I furnish the war". Spanish-American war.

HMS Lusitania was sent to be torpedoed in order to get U.S. into WWI.

USS Arizona and 7 others were delivered to Japs on a platter to attack to provide justification for the U.S. to enter WWII.

Tonkin Incident #2 was in the same vein.

There is a pattern emerging here - deception in order to manipulate public and enter into the war.

That was on high seas. On land it is no different, except the lies are more brazen:

Iraq was attacked under false accusation that WMD is present there.

Serbia was attacked because of fabricated massacre (William Walker et al.) fake peace talks in Rambouillet, with the agreement written in such manner that Serbia can not accept it. Peppered with stories about "the ethnic cleansing" and "genocide"

Libya was attacked to topple Ghadaffi and get AQ into driving seat. Again by using fake "genocide" ruse.

Except Korea, in all wars in the last 100+ years U.S. Government manipulated voters with lies or premeditated sacrifice of American lives in order to get into the war under false pretense.

Something to think about. Syria is established habit, not an aberration.

84 posted on 09/09/2013 8:45:44 AM PDT by DTA (Hands off Syria !)
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To: KeyLargo

Obama will be delivering his Gulf of Tonkin speech tomorrow.


95 posted on 09/09/2013 9:26:40 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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