Posted on 09/07/2013 9:23:51 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
It may be that the Texas National Guard will be called onto defend Texas from Federal imposed queerdom. Ironic that the modern abomination-fest was imposed on the nation with a case called Lawrence v Texas. Texas - stand fast, resist the federal overreach; it may be that others will find courage in your example and join the cause of liberty, sanity and morality,
Oh, I’m well aware of the grim prospects facing Texas. But in the bigger picture, once Texas goes down the path you’ve described, the entirity of America will already be rather lost, so it’s an awfully moot point.
And indeed, once the SC/Feds force homo-marriage onto all the states, the country just might as well burn to the ground. We’re already transitioning from a country that achieved greatness and exceptionalism to one that is actually now embracing depravity and evil.
Your post made me laugh - they will find a tree fell on Abbott in his college days when he was jogging, and he has been wheelchair bound since then. He finished college, then kept going to become an attorney. Most people would have quit when the wheelchair got them. He was such a fine attorney and Republican, he is now our Attorney General.
He is hard as nails after going through what he physically did. He isn't afraid of any federal Democrats - they will also find he married an Hispanic lady and has been married to her only for all these years.
Blackmail - not hardly. He would sue their butts off for trying.
We have a Freeper man in a wheelchair who also didn't give up - Jim Robinson who made it possible for us to talk to one another.
“But in the bigger picture, once Texas goes down the path you’ve described, the entirity of America will already be rather lost, so it’s an awfully moot point.”
Read my post 17, we aren’t going down that path.
Don't put that past Obama for one second.
“An “accident”, you know. Poor Texas AG who fell out of a tree while trimming it! And ended up with both entry and exit wounds when he fell. Looks like about .40 cal wounds. Who would have ever thought a tree would be armed?”
Since he is in a wheelchair, he won’t be in a tree. I believe he has security because he is in the wheelchair.
Great! Thanks!
I know Texas has a comprehensive marriage amendment that bans not only gay marriage but also the euphemistic substitutes like civil unions. I’m glad you guys passed it. My state has a very similar amendment, and it too passed easily with an overwhelming majority.
But do you think that will matter one bit to Anthony Kennedy? It won’t. In fact he probably gets off on overturning the will of people he considers rubes. He’s made it clear how he will rule once a proper opportunity comes his way. So if this current Sup Court takes on a challenge to one or more of the state marriage amendments (and doesn’t punt like they did with Calif’s Prop 8), then there are clearly a minimum of 5 votes to strike down every traditional marriage law and amendment and in their place impose gay marriage on the entire nation. It may even be a 6-3 depending on John Roberts. With the current Court, it’s a done deal. The only hope to prevent it is if a definitive case is put off until after 2016, and the GOP somehow wins the Presidency back in 2016, and then gets to replace Kennedy or Breyer with a conservative (I think Ginsburg will retire before then so that Obama can replace her). Otherwise, it’s over as far as the Sup Court goes.
Which brings us to what will happen if indeed the Sup Court votes to impose gay marriage on the entire nation. I contend that what will happen is some meaningless words from some of our GOP leaders condemning the Court for usurping the issue from the states. And that’s about it.
I can easily see Texas having some of the loudest voices against such an act by the Sup Court. But if it’s just words, then yeah, I’d still consider that to be meek acceptance.
It would be great if a state like Texas would actually refuse to obey such an outrageous, renegade, unconstitutional decision. It would be great if the Texas Governor, Atty General, and the legislature collectively said no to the ever increasing arrogance of the Sup Court. Maybe others would follow Texas’ lead.
But I don’t think that will happen. I think Texas will obey this decision when it comes, just like the other 49 states.
So what do you think will happen if the Sup Court strikes down Texas’ marriage law and amendment?
Maybe Texas will take a hint from Hussein and refuse to follow any federal law they don’t like. What will the feds do? Put every Texan in jail?
I’m glad you’re working hard to keep Texas a red state. Without Texas, a Republican Presidential victory is almost unthinkable.
But as far as Hispanics go I can only go by actual voting results, and polling data that shows their general views. On the former, they vote heavily for the Democrats in Texas. On the latter, they profess solidly liberal views that shows why they favor the Democrats so much.
Hispanics in Texas may not be as liberal and as Democratic as their California counterparts, but they still routinely vote Democrat in Texas by large margins. This includes races for statewide offices and federal races. Has any Republican clearly won the Hispanic vote in Texas in an important statewide race? Even shameless panderer George W Bush lost the Lone Star Hispanic vote to Al Gore in 2004, and he probably lost it four years later to Kerry. In those races and in 2012, the most heavily Hispanic districts in Texas voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat.
But again I admit that Hispanics in Texas are a little bit less Democrat than they are in other states, I wonder how firm this slightly more favorable view of Republicans is? What if, for example, the Republican Governor and the Republican state legislature decided to stop the University of Texas from discriminating against white kids in university admissions? Would latinos in Texas go along with giving up racial preferences for themselves?
Republican dominance in Texas is due to the party routinely winning over 70% of the white vote. You can argue that doing a little better with Hispanics than the party does nationally helps, but there is no denying that Hispanic voters supply a significant net vote to Democrats in Texas. If illegal aliens are granted a path to citizenship, and if mass legal immigration continues (or is increased as Schumer-Rubio would do), then this advantage will continue to grow.
When it comes to polling data that gauges Hispanic views on the issues I admit that the data is from a national sample and not limited to Texas. But considering the already covered preference for Democrats from Texas Hispanics, it’s probably a safe bet that their views are pretty much in line with the national polling results. And those results show Hispanics as favoring Obamacare, favoring more gun control, favoring a more expansive role for government, and as having among the hostile attitudes towards capitalism as any group. In other words, they fit the profile of a natural Democrat.
Even if Texas latinos oppose gay marriage (increasingly questionable considering the national surveys), then that social conservatism on one issue is obviously outweighed by their liberalism on other issues, just as it is with black voters. It’s not much to pin hopes of increasing support from Hispanics on.
So long as mass immigration continues, I see no hope of the GOP winning, breaking even, or even coming close to breaking even, with Hispanics in Texas or elsewhere. Maybe if the flow were greatly reduced, then after a few decades of immersion within a conservative Texas climate Hispanics would become the conservatives they are falsely claimed to be today. But so long as the influx continues, they will remain Democrat.
But since there is no end in sight to mass immigration, I sincerely hope I’m wrong, and that you’re right.
This documents what is happening in Texas:
That’s interesting, but I think it leaves out some key information.
Unless I missed it, I don’t recall seeing in there where it actually talks about Hispanic voting results. Those results, again, are Hispanics consistently voting for Democrats by large margins in pretty much every important statewide race.
It also has a very misleading statement when it says that the more Latino Texas becomes the more Republican it is trending. The statement is technically true, but it suggests that the reason the GOP has come to dominate Texas is because of the growing Hispanic population, and that simply isn’t true. Again, the GOP loses the Hispanic vote in Texas, so that population is on net a benefit to the Democrats. The GOP has dominated Texas because it has routinely won over 70% of the white vote. Period.
That alone won’t keep Texas red, but it should keep it from falling into hopelessly blue status like California. I don’t deny the importance of outreach to keep Texas red in the future, but the question is what will it take to win over enough non-white voters in 10 or 20 years from now?
I don’t buy that some conservatism won’t have to be jettisoned to do this. This article says that the state GOP has already pretty much abandoned efforts to enact strict immigration policies like other states have. Maybe allowing illegal aliens in-state tuition is a small price to pay to not ‘alienate’ Hispanics. But the problem is that the Democrats will do their best to make sure any conservative policies ‘alienate’ Latinos. So if the state GOP is surrendering on in-state tuition and sanctuary cities now, then what will they surrender on tomorrow, all in the name of outreach? Obviously there are a lot of Hispanics who are natural conservatives and will eagerly vote Republican. But I haven’t seen anything to convince me that they number more than 30-35% of the overall Hispanic population.
But again, since my preferred action of no path to citizenship for illegal aliens and a huge decrease in legal immigration is not likely to happen, then I sincerely hope your optimism proves to be well founded.
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