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E-Cigarettes Finding New Users in Teens
Time ^ | Sept. 05, 2013 | Alexandra Sifferlin

Posted on 09/05/2013 4:20:42 PM PDT by Drango

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To: jjsheridan5

Go withe the Duke study. It’s a winner.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 7:03:20 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

You failed to respond to my question. You referred to “other studies” that show different results. What are they?


42 posted on 09/05/2013 7:04:54 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

Seriously. The Duke study is a winner. The CDC study is junk. In fact every study except yours is bogus. You win.


43 posted on 09/05/2013 7:06:53 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
Stop pimping addiction and/or death.

What in heaven's name are you talking about?

How about addressing some of the points I've been making as opposed to your constant AH comments? Starting with where I have promoted either of the things you claim I promote.

44 posted on 09/05/2013 7:07:52 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Drango

Seriously, answer the question. Unless you can’t, because these “other studies” are only in your head.

I believe it was the head of tobacco research at John’s Hopkins (it may have been Harvard or BU), who said that one of the biggest mistakes made in the anti-smoking movement was the demonization of nicotine. Paraphrasing, nicotine has very little in the way of harmful side-effects, and, more importantly, has a wide range of positive ones. It was his belief that in attempting to hide this from the public, and even from themselves, researches blew an opportunity to understand why people smoked. For many it is the anti-depressant effects. For others, increased concentration, alertness, and displayed intelligence. For still others, it was the calming effects (nicotine has both a calming and a stimulative effect — milder than caffeine, however). Anyway, he went on to say that the anti-smoking movement, to be successful, must acknowledge this.

Given your obvious reluctance, I take it then that not only do you want deny smokers the only smoking cessation method that works, but you also want the research into understanding (accurately) the underlying factors in smoking, to be stymied.

Do you work for a tobacco company? They should be paying you.


45 posted on 09/05/2013 7:17:17 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

I’m trying to help you. Take the Duke study. Tell the world. Sell it. Run with it. Ignore the junk science saying kids might get addicted to nicotine via e-cigs. Ignore it. It’s bogus. You have a winner! We acknowledge it.


46 posted on 09/05/2013 7:21:18 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: jjsheridan5; Drango
Ignore s/h/it. This poster seems to live to attack anything, and I mean ANYTHING, that relates to tobacco/nicotine and particularly those who don't toe the same propaganda line and the latest government drummed up "study" about such.

Cotinine (spelling is WAY off on that word-sorry) is the marker for testing levels for determination of nicotine in the system and anyone who has a diet high in vegetables from the night shade family is going to have levels in their system. Every member of my household, including my 15yo is going to test positive because of the amount of tomatoes, potatoes, peppers and eggplant we consume on a daily basis.

47 posted on 09/05/2013 7:27:49 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz; jjsheridan5

Join up with jjsheridan5. You can make millions with your message! Despite what other bogus studies say/suggest, they are junk science and bogus. Bogus they are.

You can market the benefits of nicotine in every vape store and every mall in America. Yeah.


48 posted on 09/05/2013 7:32:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Gabz

Let’s just agree that nicotine addiction is bad, and that there ought to be a law making nicotine non-addictive.


49 posted on 09/05/2013 7:33:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: jjsheridan5; Drango
Do you work for a tobacco company? They should be paying you.

More likely works for a pharmaceutical company, as has their spiel absolutely down pat.

It is the pharma and body-parts industries that stand to lose MEGA bucks because of the availability of the e-cigs.

50 posted on 09/05/2013 7:33:29 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: tacticalogic

HUH?


51 posted on 09/05/2013 7:34:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

I quit in December with them. It was actually easy with the ecigs.


52 posted on 09/05/2013 7:34:39 PM PDT by sheana
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To: tacticalogic

Please excuse my previous comment - I totally agree with you!


53 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:38 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

The article is obviously an attempt to gin up public support for some legislative action to do something about teenagers getting addicted to nicotine, so let’s just pass a law that makes nicotine non-addictive. That should make everyone happy.


54 posted on 09/05/2013 7:38:25 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Drango

Complete horse hockey put out by those profiteering off tobacco. I have been using ecigs for years. Drango spewing more garbage on a subject of which he is clueless. Yet again. Don’t you ever tire of feeling foolish on this forum?

Go to an ecig shop and see what you can learn. As a non-smoker not addicted to nicotine, see if they recommend nicotine FREE ejuice.

I have yet to meet any ME types in any store. I have met many ex-analog cigarette smokers though. No taxes and no big pharma money. Horrors!


55 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:53 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yup!!!!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:58 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: DirtyPigpen

“Well, thanks to e cigs, I have not used tobacco in months. Much cheaper too.”

I used to smoke a pack of Marlboro lights per day. My mother smoked Winstons for more than 50 years. I could not stand to talk to her on the phone due to the hacking, phlegm gasps, and labored breathing in between sentences.

We both switched to e-cigarettes in 2011 and I can’t recall her ever sounding better. We can both breathe, taste, and spend our days not offending others.

I smoke them everywhere — at work, the car, my house, the grocery store, the airport, on the plane. Heh, heh, heh, it’s great! I don’t give a rat’s ass what the CDC says, they are demonstrably better for you than cigarettes!


57 posted on 09/05/2013 7:49:06 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Gabz
More likely works for a pharmaceutical company, as has their spiel absolutely down pat.

You are right on that. The level of deception is breathtaking, not just on this issue, but also issues like statins.

It is really fascinating how deranged politically correct followers can be. Notice how he derisive he became when I mentioned that nicotine may have a positive, transitory effect on displayed intelligence. Other chemicals found in our food supply have a similar effect, yet when it comes to nicotine -- a chemical found in our food supply -- he simply cannot accept the possibility that it can be true.

It's actually quite scary when you think of it. Unless he is an employee of the tobacco companies by day, and does nightshift work for the pharmaceuticals. But if not, it is frightening how close-minded true believers become.
58 posted on 09/05/2013 7:52:21 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Bshaw
I smoke them everywhere

LOL. I must be doing something wrong. No matter how hard I try, I cannot get my e-cig to combust. I do, however, enjoy vaping them.
59 posted on 09/05/2013 7:57:40 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: publana
Complete horse hockey put out by those profiteering off tobacco.

I find that a strange comment after reading your entire post that also includes...

No taxes and no big pharma money. Government (taxes) and pharma are raking in HUGE quantities of $$$$$ because of the promotion of the anti-smoker mindset that was created by the government, pharma and the media.

60 posted on 09/05/2013 8:04:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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