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1 posted on 08/31/2013 12:26:48 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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Would you regard Isaiah 3:1-4 as fulfilled prophecy at this point?


2 posted on 08/31/2013 12:28:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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I don’t care if we’re humiliated at this point ,, any action would have meant $8-10 gas and that would mean my family would have been crushed.


3 posted on 08/31/2013 12:30:42 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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Bammy should have started a case against Assad in the The International Court of Justice or in a NYC Federal Court.


4 posted on 08/31/2013 12:30:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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DU disagrees with you..LOL

“The President’s speech just now was a brilliant political move. He not only advanced his agenda to attack the Assad regime, he also gave himself an out, should he choose to use it, by including the Congress in his decision to strike. If the Republican House votes not to approve an attack, our President can then, should he choose to do so, cancel his decision and announce he is bowing to the will of the people as represented by their elected representatives. He has given himself an exit from the corner he painted himself into.

I do not agree with the President’s decision to attack Syria, and I do not know how the House and Senate will vote, but I can only admire the deft manner in which he handled one of his most important speeches. That is the man I voted for. He was brilliant today.


6 posted on 08/31/2013 12:34:48 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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I have emailed both of my Senators and my Congressman to vote NO. US intervention in Syria is unjustified and fraught with untold danger to Israel and the entire Middle East, not to mention the world economy. Just say no.


8 posted on 08/31/2013 12:36:27 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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Times like this is when weak leaders cause major problems, International wars or domestic havoc. I would be very worried. By the way I love your picture of Gen Forrest.
My G. Grandfather was a Fourth Corporal in the 12th MS cavalry under the General.
11 posted on 08/31/2013 12:37:16 PM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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Well. Lets don’t put ALL the blame on Obama.

Bonehead and McConnell could have had a joint press congress to demand a vote. They didn’t. They could have asked for a slow down.
They didn’t. The could have demanded more intel be released to the
public. They didn’t.

Only now do these gutless non leaders come out and say a vote in necessary. Most of us here know why. They were behind this strike
without having to share responsibility. That is not leadership.
I bet they are now crying knowing they are going to have to put their
vote on record. Let’s see how the RINO’s end up voting for this nonsense.


12 posted on 08/31/2013 12:38:45 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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As was predicted, the African communist piece of sh** again voted “present” and kicked the decision over to congress.

“The uh, buck stops... over there.”


14 posted on 08/31/2013 12:39:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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So before we conservatives rejoice over the personal humiliation of Barack Obama, let us consider as patriots the harm to our country.

Well written, but the above misses the mark for some, at least I don't rejoice in humiliation of 0bama, but in avoidance of lives being lost for now.

In reality, this is anything but a complete loss for 0bama, for he has not only taken his scandals off the front page, he has indeed inflicted additional "harm to our country" as you state.

Seems to be his primary goal since entering office, IMO.

17 posted on 08/31/2013 12:45:51 PM PDT by Errant
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A good article Nathan, but I disagree with you on this point:

“So before we conservatives rejoice over the personal humiliation of Barack Obama, let us consider as patriots the harm to our country. “

What harm? I say we count our blessings as the psychopaths weren’t able to start WWIII today. They’ll try again, of course. And soon. But frankly, having my family burnt to a cinder or having other American families burnt to a cinder or blown up or poisoned or irradiated ad nauseum is a high price to pay so dear leader can look butch.


19 posted on 08/31/2013 12:49:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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Like Carter, the damage this man will cause will plague us for a hundred years... if we’re lucky.


22 posted on 08/31/2013 1:03:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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What really upsets me is every time he mentions the use of military he says my, not our military. What kind of self involved arrogance must a man have to think he’s a king and not an executive with a board of directors.


23 posted on 08/31/2013 1:03:20 PM PDT by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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I wonder if Assad’s son will laugh at him on Facebook


24 posted on 08/31/2013 1:03:47 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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“So before we conservatives rejoice over the personal humiliation of Barack Obama, let us consider as patriots the harm to our country.”

General Forrest, is it ok for me to revel in Obama’s humiliation AND consider the possible harm to the country? I can do both.

Our weakling president talked tough and ultimately passed the buck to Congress. We should recognize that he actually did the proper Constitutional thing here, if for the wrong reasons. Jimmy Carter teaches us that the humiliation to the nation will be ongoing.

But I get to call my liberal relatives war-mongers, chicken-hawks, and tools of military - government - industrial complex. The irony here is richer than the best cheesecake.


29 posted on 08/31/2013 1:13:02 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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I have yet to decide if this man is a naif, or a sophisticated Machiavellian operator.

For example, back when he was teaching constitutional law, and then when he first entered the Senate, Obama made quite a point of his conviction that Presidential war-making powers needed to be dramatically trimmed back, especially in the case of military interventions not explicitly authorized by Congress.

Assuming he actually believed it, and was looking for a way to establish a such precedent, what better way to do it than to announce an unpopular intervention, let Congress get all riled up about it - with members on both the left and right demanding a say in the matter - and that once Congress was irrevocably committed in this way, announce that though he believed he had a unilateral right to order such action, he *also* believed that as a practical matter the president ought to put the matter to the legislative branch for a vote?

Or take the example of his budget negotiations with Congress:

Is he a naïve and inept negotiator who gets regularly hoodwinked by the Republicans (This is the dominate complaint on the left).

Or is he an extraordinarily devious politician?

One who knows that the way to establish his credentials with “moderate” and “independent” voters is to appear to be flexible and even willing to alienate the left.

While the same time knowing that he will not have to make substantial concessions because the Republicans will block any compromise was does not substantially achieve *all* of their objectives... all the while knowing that “gridlock” actually allows his programs to move forward?

IMO, before deciding who’s been playing the fool, look at who has *actually* been getting the results they seek.


33 posted on 08/31/2013 1:16:41 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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I would like to think that he has realized his limits, but I doubt it.


35 posted on 08/31/2013 1:20:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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Emperor Bokasa is only a few years away from his big payday. I suspect he has negotiated for gold. Time to not embarrass his bosses by pushing for the collapse too quickly. I’m sure that the possible response of the guy with the babes and the miniature giraffe were part of the decision.


40 posted on 08/31/2013 1:28:22 PM PDT by Stentor
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So all the billions he’s spent on NSA surveillance didn’t help to find the truth?

Maybe if it had been focused there instead of on U.S. citizens he may have learned something.


42 posted on 08/31/2013 1:32:26 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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Lest anyone doubt the gravity of the problem, there’s Putin, sneeringly referring to obama as “Nobel Peace Prize laureate;” a very rare display of fangs from one world leader to another.


47 posted on 08/31/2013 1:42:51 PM PDT by HomeAtLast (Galt's Gulch: it isn't Valley Forge.)
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He’ll make us pay for his humiliation. Just wait.


53 posted on 08/31/2013 2:00:06 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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