Posted on 08/31/2013 8:19:58 AM PDT by sockmonkey
U.N. experts investigating a poison gas attack in Syria left the country on Saturday, paving the way for the United States to lead military strikes to punish President Bashar al-Assad.
U.S. President Barack Obama said the United States, which has five cruise-missile equipped destroyers in the region, was planning "limited, narrow" military action to punish Assad for an attack that Washington said killed 1,429 people.
"We cannot accept a world where women and children and innocent civilians are gassed on a terrible scale," Obama said on Friday after Washington unveiled an intelligence assessment concluding Assad's forces were to blame for the attack.
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Qassim Saadeddine, a former Syrian army colonel and spokesman for the rebels' Supreme Military Council, said rebel groups had been sent a military plan of action.
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Some of the most successful rebel groups are fiercely anti-Western Sunni Islamists allied to al Qaeda, and the West is wary of arming the opposition for fear of weapons reaching them.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Syria never had their own program. Whatever Saddam did or did not provide them, the Russians did.
CW- it’s not exactly rocket science to set up a lab and import scientists from Germany France Russia Pakistan China North Korea or wherever- and produce lethal agents. Think any of them hate the US and/or Israel?
CW delivery can be quite primitive - has been done by one of Syria’s allies by simply rolling barrels out the back of a C-130
but whatever, Syria has SCUDs artillery and an air force
Making CW is only a step beyond making pesticides or even fertilizer- in fact they probably got world bank development money to do it
She is not going to be seen AT ALL.
that’s what i said on another thread cause I read Bret stephen’s article on that...I got the usual “YOU go do it and leave us alone” baby response. It is soooo easy to be isolationist. In fact, Barry’s a pretty good isolationist most of the time.
Again, hussein has all of congress blackmailed into submission. Think John Roberts.
I asked you to explain this yesterday on another thread, and maybe you didn’t see my post.
Why do you say that OUR gold was in Libya? What evidence do you have of that? When was our gold supposedly put there? That just seems completely off the wall.
I have never heard anything like this and am interested to learn what makes you say this, what valid evidence you have.
I can see a lot of reasons why Obama continues supporting Al Q and Muslim Brotherhood (because Saudi Arabia wants him to and he jumps to their commands), but don’t see the Gold theory as being a valid one at all. But willing to learn more if you can provide some valid evidence, links etc.
Bttt
Yeah. That’s kinda what I thought.
I admit, I haven’t been really keeping up with Syria until recently.
Obozo could have saved face by demanding all forces hand’em over to the U.N., Russia or America. Give’em several days to begin trucking them to an approved site.
This would have given him the out he needed to NOT bomb and then go in after they refuse to turn them over.
There was quite a bit of chatter about Syria being pissed at Russia when the Israelis took out their Nuke plant. Their air defenses didn't work so well.
(chickenhawk Hannity, for one)
They changed the meaning of the term during their war on Boooooosh.
Our soldiers don’t deserve the leadership they are under. Hope the don’t die fighting for Muslim radicals in Syria. We are an insane nation.
Bet the Israelis didn’t tell em they were coming either ....:o)
Don’t mistake complacency of the operators as failure of the equipment .
I have long said America has to be removed from the world stage in order for the endtimes to be fulfilled. This is happening. 0bama's strike will have catastrophic consequences as predicted in Daniel 8. It will bring the collapse of the US and the beginning of sorrows will rev-up for 2300 days. But if you want to be really startled read verses 18-25. if that is not a description of Obama... ?
But...as dark as some of this may seem I believe America is the only country on earth that can turn aside and back to God to do God's will. Why do I think such craziness...election 2016. The prophecy says ...he shall be broken, but by no human hand...an election? America needs a good hard lesson in order to turn her heart back to God.
Written way back in 2000...something to think through and study very carefully... The Prophetic Future of the United States
Ping for further reading....
In case you had never heard, in 1983, it was Hezbollah who murdered 243 Marines as they selpt in their beds with a truck bomb equal to six Timothy McVeigh vans. And the response of our President at the time? It was Ronald Reagan who had the military turn tail and bug out from Beirut faster than Clinton clamored out of Somalia. To this day, their deaths have never been avenged. (Obama could have used that as an excuse to bomb the hell out of Hezbollah - Assad's proxy army. But since they are also a proxy for Iran, and Obama would never so much as touch a hair on the Ayatollah's head, fuggeddaboutit!).
Hezbollah did the fake massacre thing in 2006 in the city of Qana, exactly ten years after a similar strike on Qana in 1996. Little Green Footballs, Hot Air, and Sweetness & Light thoroughly debunked the claim that the IDF had bombed a childrens' shelter, deliberately or otherwise.
If you have never read about Mr. Green Helmet, now is the time. He was the same guy who appeared in all of the photos of the 1996 Qana "massacre" and who also appeared all over the place in 2006 Qana, dressed with and without his orange jacket, with and without his green helmet, with and without his radio, and basically waived around the same, very stiff, very dessicated, very dusty, very bloodless, yet "freshly crushed" little boy who was also sporting a brand new, dustless Binkie around his neck in a dozen different photos. Same baby. Same Green Helmet "rescue worker." Same Cosmopolitan-like photo shoot.
And, of course, the liberal Western world media swallowed it, hook, line, and stinker as they did with the non-shooting of Mohammed al-Dura the 12-year old boy NOT SHOT by the IDF but claimed to be, after France 2 TV network edited the film to make it look that way. Read the story of how one man, named Karseny, who was sued for slander by France 2 for accusing them of doctoring the tape, won the lawsuit, and forever proved that France 2 had lied about the incident that would result in 1,000'a of needless deaths and make al-Dura, the "poster child of the 2nd Intifadeh."
Countless videos of Hezbollah during the 2006 war with Israel show them herding children together to use as human shields. Check 'em out on youtube.
Then, recently, we had the "Freedom flotilla" organized by Ayers, Dohrn, and Code Pink and comprised of Turkish terrorists and "peace activists" seeking martyrdom and using knives, pipes, bats, and a gun or two to attack Israeli soldiers armed with paint ball guns who were boarding their ship to divert it to a port meant to handle humanitarian aid which, on this ship, was disguised as concrete, and was intending to break a legal blockade.
Both Obama and Turkey's PM forced Israel's PM to "apologize" for killing nine terrorists in self-defense. Never mind the bleeding and maimed IDF who got "Zimmermanned" by these terrorist leaders.
In other words, those so-called "rebels" who happen to be members of Al Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood terrorist groups who co-opted the "Free Syria" cause -- are the only ones who would directly benefit from Obama's stupid red line comment which they saw as a green light to gas kids (which pales in comparison to the torture they inflicted on Syrian civilians. Do an Internet search on "Syrian Rebel Unit Torturing Civilians, Opposition Group Claims").
Now, to save face after being called a "monkey with a grenade" by Assad, Obama is going to play his version of the "Knockout Game" but with our faces instead.
Syria is his "Ultimate Distraction" from the crimes he has already committed, and the crimes he is just now committing while he has his Media to put the public under a fog of war talk.
Sorry about the lack of response. I have been very sick, spent a week in the hospital, and the dumbasses still don't know if my appendix should come out, or if the blood clot is gone, or what the results of the blood tests for masses on the renal glands (don't even know what that means) show.
Why do you say that OUR gold was in Libya?
Because the Libyan National Bank was the SAFE PLACE to hide huge stashes of GOLD. There isn't any in Fort Knox, and the Chinese flooded the market with Tungsten filled Gold Bars. The Libyan National Bank was protected by the Libyan Military and Only the current head of the government could authorize access/withdrawals/etc.
This is why the Western Allies arranged for him to be killed. Remember... when Ghadaffi was butt-raped in the street and murdered, what did the 'rebels' do ?
Did they form a new Government? No, they took over the bank and established themselves as the NEW BANK.
But the GOLD wasn't there.
The ruling elite do not keep their 'principal' in the form of paper money, or in any bank where the various governments have access to it, to see how much is there. Most of the government officials don't want to either, as they have their own little stashes.
The Libyan National Bank being the depository for the Big Bankers/Investors/Ruling Elite was no secret, and other than the US, most of the world knows about it.
Can you give a good reason why we went after Ghadaffi with CRUISE MISSILES (he was our 'ally) ?
Now we are going after Assad (who was our ally), accusing him of gassing his own people, when he has no need because he is already succeeding against the 'rebels'. Obama plans to shoot a bunch of CRUISE MISSILES (again) at ASSAD to make him give up the GOLD.
Why do you say that OUR gold was in Libya?
(addressing this twice
"our" was probably a bad choice of words. It belongs to the criminals (bankers, politicians,etc.) that run the world. It is theirs and they want it back.
They will use any means to get it back. Lie, cheat, steal, murder, doesn't matter.
You ask for evidence. Well... that is why the GOLD was being kept there to begin with. This 'money' was protected and UNTAXED and the Records of WHO had GOLD there was kept by Ghadaffi and a small staff. Ghadaffi is gone, the GOLD is gone, the records are gone.
I know, you will say this is just a 'conspiracy' theory, but how do you explain this repeated use of CRUISE MISSILES (by a man who claimed he would stop the use of Cruise Missiles) against countries and leaders that were our 'allies' ?
Why is Obama willing to commit our Military to achieving the goal of bombing the heck out of Assad ?
Because of the money. Because the World's elite bankers want their DAMN GOLD BACK.
IF you have a better answer, I'm all ears.
None of the other 'current' explanations make any sense.
Why are we in SYRIA taunting the Russians (who have the ability to make things very bad for us) ?
See Putin knows it's about the GOLD, and he would like to see the WESTERN ECONOMIES fail. The EASTERN economies and their ruling elite can make a pretty penny off this if Obama can't recover the GOLD.
Just think it over. You don't have to believe me, but all of this is true.
Back when they went After Ghadaffi, this was discussed here on FR by myself and several others.
Could I be wrong? Sure. We are just willing to piss off the Russians and Iran, and Iraq, and and have more of our soldiers killed... because ......... Assad gassed his own people ? (which he didn't). Because we want the rebels to take over from our former ALLY (the only reason we would want that is for the chaos to cover finding and removing the GOLD.
I have no 'proof' I could put before you, because they didn't leave that kind of proof just lying about for anyone to see. If that makes you discount what I contend, and you wish to believe in the Hokey crap they are trying to push down your throat (and which becomes more obvious day by day), then that is your choice, and your right.
Thank you for your long and thoughtful response. And no, I don’t believe much of anything the media and our government tell us anymore. In fact, if Obama and the media say it, probably 99.99999% of the time it’s a lie.
I’m as willing to listen to your theories as any others. I’ve heard many theories for explaining some of the strange things our country has done in recent years. From Obama wanting to help establish a Muslim caliphate, to making money from arms running, to protecting Saudi oil and power interests, to the natural gas pipeline which will run through Syria and keep Russia as the monopoly on energy in Europe. I had just never heard the gold theory (and I agree that there is not much if anything left in Fort Knox) and so just wanted to hear what evidence you had, or where you had read it.
I’m sorry if I sounded impatient, just had seen you post it several times and had not seen an explanation so was wondering what was backing it up or just a theory.
I’m sorry you’ve been so sick, and hope you recover soon.
Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:50:54 AM · 35 of 60
MestaMachine to penelopesire
January 16, 2013
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/1/16_Germanys_Entire_Gold_Hoard_At_The_Fed_May_Already_Be_Gone.html
Germany’s Entire Gold Hoard At The Fed May Already Be Gone
countries like Germany, Austria, and others are in serious danger of having claims on their gold stored at the Fed evaporate.
Here is what Barron had to say: “This has been happening for quite some time. In fact, I can remember hearing 6 or 7 years ago that Gaddafi wanted all of his gold back from New York. There were several tons going on a transport plane out of New York once a week to Libya.”
Keith Barron continues:
“He (Gaddafi) just didn’t trust any other government with it. Of course we all know what happened to him eventually. His gold has kind of gone missing (appropriated), and nobody knows where it is now. This is the problem the Germans, Austrians, and various other countries are facing.
They don’t want their gold to go missing....
Adding to my post:
French bankers in collusion with the french government emptied their gold storage vault and sent that gold to Libya to be hidden. Gaddafy hid it and refused to return it. They are desperately looking for it. They followed decoy convoys out of Libya before Gaddafy was murdered all the way to South Africa and didn’t find it.
That is why the french are so gung ho to go after Assad. They think rhe gild was sent to Syria. Gaddafy was supposed to be captured not killed. Rhere is quite a bit more to this, but I don’t have time right now to expound on it.
I am having trouble staying online. Is anyone else having problems?
I wonder why the French would send their gold Africa. Seems a really bizarre thing to do. Seems it would be the most insecure place you could possibly think of!
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