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To: xzins; Constitution 123; Jim Robinson; BuckeyeTexan; All

Here is the one thing I need to emphasize. The principle intent of the Framers was that the Consitution must be interpreted so as to ensure that future generations would continue to “secure the Blessing of Liberty”. Therefore, not even considering the Common Law rules for Stautory Interpretaion that any term that is vague must be interpreted in the light most favorable to the non-moving party, I believe that as people who love this country, people who honor our founders, and people who believe in the principals of Liberty, that we must be willing to consider the current Zeitgeist and the Constitutional Crisis of this time and recognize that if we believe that a man such as Ted Cruz is the most likely candidate to both return our Country back to the Republic our founders envisioned and to secure the Blessigs of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity, then we must not only give every benefit of the doubt as to his eligibility to Ted Cruz, but we must actively and enthusiastically work to ensure his election in 2016.

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Simply put, given the times in which we live, any strict and unbending rule of interpretation which would prevent Ted Cruz from ascending to the office of the President would in and of itself be unconstitutional.

I am convinced just based on the standard principles of general statutory interpretation that Ted Cruz, being a Citizen at Birth, would fall into the Category of Natural Born Citizen.

To those who disagree, I have to ask whether, in light of the current Constitutional Crisis in which we find ourselves today their refusal to support someone like Ted Cruz because of their rigid interpretation of the NBC clause will be a step towards or away from the principle goal of our Founders to preserve the Blessings of Liberty to both ourselves and our Posterity.

If they cannot in all good conscience say that their position will work to secure those blessings,, then I believe that as Patriotic Americans, they owe it to both themselves and their posterity to reconsider their position.

I do not believe we will have another shot at preserving the Constitution after 2016 if we don’t elect a president at that time who truly believes in the founding principles of Liberty.

If we end up with a Democrat or a RINO in 2016, then the Republic is finished. So what is more important right now, applying such a rigid interpretation to some vague clause in the Constitution so that we exclude the most electable man who can save this Republic, or saving this country by enthusiastically supporting him?


507 posted on 09/01/2013 6:03:53 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe
I have been giving Ted Cruz every benefit of a doubt as regards Constitutional eligibility. I believe that a very plausible case can be made for his being eligible to the office of President without turning into some “living Constitution” fool with no respect for founding principals. What I will not do, is pretend that there is no issue, here. There is, being primarily in my view Canadian citizenship, which Cruz is moving to renounce.

Is this sufficient? That I do not know, but it's an effective step under the jurisdictional argument I've been making for quite some time, well before your attempts to shut down any discussion. Do you honestly believe that Democrats have the logic, integrity and internal consistency not to use an eligibility argument against Cruz? I don't. They'll be screaming it from the rooftops. They hold us to our own set of rules, not theirs. Therefore, exploring the matter thoroughly is necessary and the right thing to do, both politically and Constitutionally.

Ted Cruz is certainly paying attention and doing what he can to remove objections on this basis. He has been a powerful voice for conservatism in his short time in office. May that voice extend from words into actions, and may he be found eligible, it's not at all outside the realm of the possible. I'll gladly vote for him if so.

Fair enough?

510 posted on 09/01/2013 6:34:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: P-Marlowe
We are both strong conservatives so we are on the same side.

We both agree that Cruz is an outstanding person and would make an excellent President.

We both agree that if Cruz is the nominee, we will support him to the hilt.

We both agree that losing is not an option.

However, even though we do not agree that Cruz is a NBC, for pragmatic reasons, I have come to your side. This is why I will support Cruz.

Just like the founders avoided making slavery a big issue prior and during the adoption of the constitution, for the good of our country we must follow their example and do the same with the eligibility issue.

At this point, debating eligibility is not going to change any minds. So let us use our energy to convince constitutional purest to help us save the country by supporting whoever is the most conservative candidate and suspend the NBC debate ..... for now.

518 posted on 09/01/2013 7:48:02 AM PDT by Constitution 123 (Knowledge is power but to Obots,ignorance is bliss.)
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