What you have done is very illustrative of why the country is in the mess it is in. Effectively, rather than relying on your own intelligence, your own conscience and your own liberty to make a rational decision on your own as to whether or not the Framers intended to include the Children of Citizens board abroad as Natural Born Citizens, you have surrendered that individual liberty to 9 unelected and unaccountable people, the same people who gave us Roe v. Wade.
Do you honestly believe that a ruling by these CLOWNS (yes they are CLOWNS) is going to remove the "shadow of a doubt" that you have in your own mind as to whether or not Ted Cruz should be eligible to take the office of president?
Do you really have that much respect for the opinion of those 9 clowns?
George Washington in 1790, the year after the Constitution was ratified, signed into law a provision that the children of Citizens born abroad would be deemed Natural Born Citizens. This law was passed by the same people who wrote the Natural Born Citizen Clause into the Constitution.
Here we are eleven score and three years later and you are anxiously waiting for the same court that gave us Roe v. Wade and Obamacare to render a decision before you can possibly vote for a man who, if he had been born in 1790 would have been considered a natural born citizen in the eyes of George Washington?
You are a sovereign individual with a remnant of the Liberty that those who died in the Revolutionary war fought to preserve for you. Every day that Congress meets and every day the Supreme Court makes a ruling you are further and further away from being able to pass that remnant of Liberty down to your posterity.
And you are unwilling to give Ted Cruz the benefit of your own individual doubt and instead wish to surrender that decision to the Supreme Court of the United States?
How can you call yourself a patriot in a day such as this when you can't resist the temptation to surrender your own Liberty to a bunch of senile unelected buffoons, the opinions of whom you seem to respect more than Liberty itself?
Kenny, if you can't give Ted Cruz the benefit of the doubt you have as to his eligibility, then I just don't know what to say to you.
The meaning of “natural born Citizen” was fully understood by the authors of the Constitution. There was no confusion about its meaning. Being intimately familiar with the concepts contained in natural law, and using these concepts to form the Constitution, the authors of the Constitution considered it obvious to every educated man at that time that natural born Citizens were those who were born on a country’s soil to parents who were the country’s citizens. The concept of “natural born Citizen” was written into the Constitution before the US Congress existed and before any US laws were created. It needs no statutory laws to define it or to clarify it.
And the [&^%$#$%, ^%!%^&*, *^%$] individual mandate in Obamacare.
What you have done is very illustrative of why the country is in the mess it is in. Effectively, rather than relying on your own intelligence, your own conscience and your own liberty to make a rational decision on your own.... you have surrendered that individual liberty to 9 unelected and unaccountable people....
Far too many so called conservative are just like KB, surrendering their liberty to all kinds of unelected and unaccountable bureuacrats on a daily basis....
How can you call yourself a patriot in a day such as this when you can’t resist the temptation to surrender your own Liberty to a bunch of senile unelected buffoons, the opinions of whom you seem to respect more than Liberty itself?
__________________________________________________
This I will weigh in on...
PM for several days now you have questioned the very patriotism of those who would wonder at the eligibility of someone they are eager to champion but want to endorse with no hesitation or reservations...
as a Conservative who loves Amertica and the Constitution.should...
such as myself...
You appear to want to entertain court room drama in these threads and not concerned debate...
Do you see youself in the comment you gave to Kenny Bunk ???
Rather than expecting surrender however, you seem to be demanding that only your own oppinion be accepted and the liberty of others be squelched...
We are many months from 2016 ...the first debates will come at the end of 2015...
Many of us have the highest respect for Ted Cruz and the noblest of intentions...
If Ted Cruz runs and is own nominee I will gladly get behind him and encourage others to also...
But meanwhile, I have to live under the shadow of the suspicions and accusations and hatred of that-guy-in-my-White-House TM for 3 more years..
I’d rather in the case of my fellow sufferers, find liberty and tranquility and agreement and not the the same unconstitutional treatment...
You have said many things, now I expect to find examples of your fervent belief in them...
Although when you wrote, “You are a sovereign individual with a remnant of the Liberty” I would have perferred you meant all liberty is ours rather than the partial you appear to allow us...
I realize you are impassioned in your comments, but there are many loyal Americans in these threads who like myself are veterans who volunteered to defend our country...
Our love and regard for our country is genuine..
Like me they think that America is the greatest country on Earth...
Why are we Conservatives and the TEA Party if we must be horse whipped so ???
Your words sting not because they are true...
But because they are unnecessary and we are not children but men and women who have stood up for our God, our country and Conservatism...and LIBERTY
Personally while I would readily vote for certain candidates or perform certain activities, I will not be whipped or shamed into action...
That is not LIBERTY...
back in June, in Manchester, TN, when we stood outside the meeting of the Islamists wanting to steal our 1st Amendments rights and falsely accuse us of hate crimes ...We were shouting FREEDOM !!! FREDOM !!! FREEDOM !!! like a group of Braveheart warriors, but I never expected to have to echo the same here...
I find myself having to do so now...
FREEDOM !!! FREEDOM !!! FREEDOM !!!
For what is an Amertican if he or she is not FREE...
Tennessee Nana
American citizen
“..9 unelected and unaccountable people, the same people who gave us Roe v. Wade. ..”
And part of that group look to foreign law to rule on the UNITED STATES Constitution.