Posted on 08/27/2013 1:55:57 PM PDT by nathanbedford
After an economic crash it’s just as likely that Article V would be used to pass the “Economic Justice Amendment” and give communism the veneer of constitutionality.
I just hope we get through the next five years.
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
Would three-quarters of the states ratify an Economic Justice Amendment? No.
BTW, an Amendments Convention only has proposal rights, neither disposal nor ratification rights. That was the flaw in the scenario you designed for that third book.
I allow the political composition of the state legislatures far less credence than I would have a year ago.
I place importance here: However, we must believe that it would only take one headline to change the context and change the zeitgeist overnight which might cause a quorum of the states to gather.
At some point, a sufficient outrage will occur that cannot be ignored; party be damned. We conservatives will hopefully have sowed enough seed by that time to dominate the debate as to where the nation must go.
Because as he decreases the power of Washington he increases his own power. 1010RD turned me on to this concept some months ago. It prompted me to write a letter to my state assemblyman which explained why I want him to have influence over treaties, judicial and executive appointments.
Bingo. We can use the natural sin nature and power hunger of all men to effect a return to the balance of powers the founders so wisely constructed. People now tend to mentally visualize the Federal Government as this powerful entity at the top of a pyramid, that rules over all the rest. We need to replace that with a mental image of a set of scales/balances, with the Federal Government on one side and the States on the other. I think if State legislators can get that vision in their mind, some of them that may not initially be in favor, might catch the vision and get on board, for selfish reasons if no other. I think just the fact that State legilators are closer to "the people" in geographic location, power and every other way, makes them tend to be a little more responsive anyway.
Bingo to you!
Save your post. It explains exactly the necessary change in mindset. What ails us has been reduced to a sporting event; one side’s mascot is an elephant and the other is a donkey. “Root for your team” . . . not for me, not anymore.
Our focus must change toward our state assemblymen and senators who can, as you say, balance out the consolidated government that lords over us.
“What are our chances of restoring the Constitution through Article V?”
Zero. Not even a remote chance of this nirvana happening.
The 10th ammendment already exists. The states just need to use it.
I will work to bring it about, but I hold no illusions that this plan will prevail. I do not believe it will.
The process is likely to take several years, during which control of some of these legislatures may switch. As states are added to the list of Applications to Congress, the pressure on other states will increase. It’s even possible that whether or not a state will join could become an election issue in that state. In fact I think that would be inevitable.
The task is daunting, and obstacles will be artificially and naturally put in the way, but can it be done? Yes. It will require tenacity, focus and will.
But, we have these traits.
Wow. You are nothing if not glib. Maybe fatuous is a better description.
Anyone who comes within earshot of threatening what the globalists are so close to achieving will be “disappeared” before any real momentum stands a chance.
It isn’t Mark Levin alone who will succeed or fail in this effort, it is us.
It’s OUR job to get this done, no one else’s.
So then, what do you recommend? Low profile living as a slave of the leviathan?
Agreed. I’m tired of looking to Washington to fix Washington.
Agreed. I’m tired of looking to Washington to fix Washington.
Do not despair! I live in NC and this past election cycle we elected a republican governor and reaffirmed the republican super majority in the legislature.
This is the first time this has happened in NC SINCE RECONSTRUCTION! Since then, they have been rolling back the decades of commie democrat destruction on our fine state.
There is a long road ahead but keep in mind that 2014 could change things drastically just like in NC. Also note that we voted Obama in narrowly in 2008 and were a purple state. Now we are fairly solid red.
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