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To: SoConPubbie; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; Brown Deer
That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.

OK so let's just kind of try to flesh this out a little.

On what date was Eleanor born in Delaware? So we can figure out on what date she was 14; so we can figure out whether or not she meets the five years after 14 requirement.

And where did Eleanor live before she was 14? So we can figure out if she also meets the ten year rule.

And where did she live between the date of her 14th birthday and the date of her 19th birthday? So we see how she meets the five year rule also.

We will know from her birth date whether or not she was 19 when Ted was born--my memory is that the answer to that question is affirmative but I am not sure.

And on what date was the five years after 14 effective--for children born after what date? In the footnotes to the Enrolled Bill, not in US Code Annotated unless you have an edition which includes the footnotes.

And on what date was the five years after 14 provision replaced (which it was)--again for children born after what date? And what was the replacement provision in effect in 1970 if the effective date in 70 was prior to Cruz birth?

I tend to doubt your analysis is one which is likely to be adopted by the Supreme Court. Under existing conditions, it is likely that the Court would rule Natural Born means born within the geographical confines of the several states as constituted on the date of birth.

Further, everyone should also understand that the Constitutional Bar is generally of the consensus view that the citizenship statute you cite is probably unconstitutional for the reason that the child of a father born under the same circumstances would not be a citizen.

Conceivably that issue could be resolved by retroactive amendment of the citizenship statute to make US Citizen father children citizen's at birth as if they had been born to Citizen mother's. Making conclusive proof by DNA of the father would seem to meet the usual objection to such an amendment. Drawback to such an amendment would be that it would make the present occupant of the White House a citizen at birth also since his father was a multi generational US Citizen.

Understanding the actual situation in connection with Cruz birth citizenship however is important because it might offer a road map for modification of the Constitution that might have some general appeal.

258 posted on 08/27/2013 8:05:44 AM PDT by David
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To: David
Drawback to such an amendment would be that it would make the present occupant of the White House a citizen at birth also since his father was a multi generational US Citizen.

Huh?

When was his father ever a US citizen?

Is there some record of this Kenyan born British subject ever even expressing the desire to be an American citizen?

Or did I miss the invisible </sarcasm> tag?

259 posted on 08/27/2013 8:12:40 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: David

Eleanor Darragh, b. Wilmington DE 1935. Moved from DE to TX as a teenager, graduated Rice Univ TX age 21 (1956)... Ummm I think that makes her qualify. Only moved to Canada in the 1960s. The age 14 thing. The 10 year resident thing all passes muster, unless you want to disqualify Delaware as a state because of SloJo Biden... LOL


260 posted on 08/27/2013 8:44:23 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: David

Obama’s father never applied for and nor did he even desire to apply for US citizenship. He was an anti-colonist who hated the United States. The Natural born citizen requirement was placed in the constitution by our framers to protect the union from just such a person as Barrack Obummer.


262 posted on 08/27/2013 9:22:54 AM PDT by Constitution 123 (Knowledge is power but to some, ignorance is bliss.)
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To: David
On what date was Eleanor born in Delaware?

As simple people search gives you all this. Looks like Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson Cruz Darragh was born about 1935 which made her about 35 when Ted was born in Canada in 1970. She got her degree at Rice University in Houston, TX. Looks like she probably does meet the requirement to pass on US citizenship.

Why do you want to modify the Constitution?

303 posted on 08/28/2013 6:50:13 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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