Posted on 08/25/2013 2:36:07 PM PDT by Jacquerie
Restoring the American Republic ping!
I’m on board.
We should all be contacting our state representatives and educating them about this.
It may be our last best chance to change things.
Thanks
Levin’s discussions on the Constitution are as quaint as discussing Shakespeare or poems by Robert Frost.
The founders made their arguments and backed each one up with musket.
No state may rescind or modify it during the six year limit.
Holy crap. I agree with every one of these.
Why change the number of legislatures required to ratify any amendment though? It’s 3/5 now, no?
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
That is how we achieved independence. As opposed to Magna Charta and the English Bill of Rights which were extracted from unwilling princes, we formed a government in an unusual way . . . through peaceful deliberation.
Need to add that all members of congress are subject to the laws they pass. No exclusion or special privilege allowed
Term limits! The Founders never intended Congress to be a lifetime position.
Mark may have something designed for this, as well, but this is great. Thank you!
No congressional or scotus involvement necessary or possible.
It is federalism at its best.
Sounds like anti-Federalism, no?
The statists in DC who profit so much from the system they corrupted are incapable of reform.
Number three stinks badly. No matter how attractive it might look on its surface, it actually embeds judicial supremacy, which is the opposite of the constitutional form of representative self-government given to us by the founders. Bad court opinions, and bad laws, are already null and void, according to the fundamental natural law principles laid down by men like Cicero, and Aquinas, and Blackstone, and Hamilton.
Glaringly missing from his list is any amendment to protect marriage, or innocent human life in the womb. A pretty big oversight, considering where the country is right now.
In any case, the calling of a constitutional convention at a time when our political class is rank with those who won’t even keep their oaths to support and defend the Constitution we’ve already got, and who lack the most basic principles upon which our Constitution is premised, is a supremely bad idea.
JUST SAY NO, NO TO THE CONCON!
While an excellent argument can be made for term limits (which, along with elimination of the fat pensions, perks and LAME DUCK SESSIONS, I favor), I would offer that, currently, our chances of getting them are somewhere between slim and none.
The sad fact that we are even discussing them is a manifestation of the even sadder fact that, until recently, Americans have grown complacently inattentive to the actions of and abuses by government at all levels. The phrase Let George do it springs to mind. More folks know the names of the characters on Lost and Dancing With The Stars than know who allegedly represents them in the House.
Having said that, I must respectfully disagree with calls for a Constitutional Convention. I do so for the same reasons I joined with others to repel the push for a ConCon during the Carter maladministration.
Please recall that the FIRST ConCon was convened to REVISE the Articles of Confederation and, while it produced a radically different and arguably superior national charter, the problem to which I referred at the top would almost certainly lead to a loss of even more of the freedoms too many of us now take for granted.
A second ConCon would be populated by current STATE political elites who have been selected BY their fellow STATE political elites. Think Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Fortney Pete Stark, Maxine Waters or their philosophical clones etc. and be afraid. Be VERY AFRAID!
Unfortunately for us and our liberties, General Washington, Messers. Madison, Franklin, Adams, Sherman and the others will not be there this time. Once in session, THERE WOULD BE NO PRACTICAL WAY TO CONTROL THE NEW CAST OF CHARACTERS.
But, say you, the PEOPLE would have to ratify any such actions. Please recall that, today, these would be the same people who gave us Barrack Obama and hundreds of progressives on Capitol Hill in 2008.
Yes, so far 2010 appears to have been a SLIGHT course change and, no, Im not giving up on the people. In our system, they should, within Constitutional constraints, have the last word.
Mr. Jeffersons advice in that area comes to mind:
I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.
Those of us who wish to save this nation and return it to a condition the Founders would again recognize must continue to inform their discretion.
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I don’t agree with the amendment allowing Congress to override the Supreme Court. If a party gets enough seats, they could do anything they want, including effectively nullifying one of the first 10 amendments.
I will let you guess the first one that would fall.
“...If a party gets enough seats,
hey could do anything they want,
including effectively nullifying
one of the first 10 amendments...”
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That is already true today.
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