Posted on 08/22/2013 2:07:18 PM PDT by madprof98
Justices on the New Mexico Supreme Court have ruled that the First Amendment does not protect the beliefs of Christians, and owners of a photography company in that state must violate their faith in order to continue to do business.
“The Huguenins today can no more turn away customers on the basis of sexual orientation – photographing a same-sex marriage ceremony – than they could refuse to photograph African-Americans or Muslims,” the opinion from the court said.
Threatened the judges, “At its heart, this case teaches that at some point in our lives all of us must compromise, if only a little, to accommodate the contrasting values of others. A multicultural, pluralistic society, one of our nation’s strengths, demands no less. The Huguenins are free to think, to say, to believe, as they wish; they may pray to the God of their choice and follow those commandments in their personal lives wherever they lead. The Constitution protects the Huguenins in that respect and much more. But there is a price, one that we all have to pay somewhere in our civic life.”
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“A multicultural, pluralistic society, one of our nation’s strengths”
What a ridiculous idea!
Multiculturalism is a weakness, usually fatal to healthy societies. You could make the argument that America is different, that it won’t kill us - but a STRENGTH?
Don’t make me laugh.
Judges CAN be removed from office, even Federal for life judges, if they violate the constitution.
This judge should be servicing some tattooed thug in jail right now but we no longer seem to have a legal mechanism to invoke the Constitutional limits on the government mafia.
Just who is going to drag this judge off the bench? I bet the JBTs will come to his defense.
This criminal has just ruled that people engaged in perverted anal sex MUST have their rectal relations celebrated while at the same time ruling that Christians have no right to FREELY practice their religion in spite of such protection in the Constitution.
Hot Tar and Feathers time folks.
A religious freedom is guaranteed by the Constitution.
Being of a certain race is not a moral issue.
These two are not the same thing as sanctioning immoral behavior, which many feel include gay marriage.
Since when is the point of compromise always needing to be at the point of the lowest common denominator?
Why does the gay couple not need to compromise, and find someone to photograph their occasion that agrees to do it?
Why must it be forced?
It isn’t about getting their photos. It is about FORCING people with religious objections to bow to the homosexual agenda.
Unfortunately, this was a UNANIMOUS decision by the full Supreme Court of New Mexico.
That’s been tried before. What comes next is (drum roll, please)...the quota system. Wedding photogs, florists, bakers, and, yes, even ministers, will be required to prove that at least 15% of their business comes from the gay community. Otherwise, it will be prima facie evidence of discrimination.
+1
.... But since I am offended by the very sight of you, I shall be taking all of the photographs with a blindfold on.
““A multicultural, pluralistic society, one of our nation’s strengths...”
No, that is arguably America’s great weakness.”
Diversity such as in a garden is good until weeds are considered diversity and we have way too many cultural weeds in this society to survive.
The citizens MUST remove this judge from the bench otherwise they are saying Ok you can do that to us and render the Constitution moot.
That's not what the First Amendment says about the free exercise of religion.
Plus, they're not refusing service to gay customers. If the same customers came in and wanted photographers for a birthday party or a graduation, I don't think they'd be turned down.
Likewise, if skinheads or KKK came in and wanted photographs for an offensive anti-gay bash (a "F**k the gays" parade), these same Christian photographers would almost certainly turn them down.
TThis is because photography is not just another product. It's expressive. It's a form of expressing a value or sentiment or conveying a message, just as is creating a drawing or painting, or planing an event, or decorating a cake, or writing and performing a song.
You wouldn't force ANY photographers to create positive photographs for a Neo-Nazi event, would you?
The judge is wrong.
It’s true. I work with music, and when I’m solicited for a wedding, I ask: “do you want a wedding band, or a band at your wedding? That gets rid of 75% of the people I don’t want right there. Then I tell them: “no requests, it’s a band, not a jukebox.” That gets rid of another 15%. Then I tell them “no d.j. or recorded music”. And, “band gets the same food as the guests, goes in by the front door. $7,500 for one set, $10,000. for two.
Anyone who is left standing after that gets my band. Of course, if I really liked the person I’d be flexible about the last condition. Meanwhile, I have ways to screen out the people I don’t want to do business with, for whatever reason - a gay wedding or they just rub me the wrong way.
I’d make the queers pay it. I’d hire a smelly, drunk, for the day and give him a pocket camera. Then I’d charge the queers full fare and maybe a little extra for damaged equipment.
“Why must it be forced?”
To break you.
The First Amendment is an absolute, one not limited merely to prayer and our personal lives. The price that this judge demands Christians pay, the price of giving up a God-given and fundamental human right, is far too high and completely outside the supreme law of the land (the Constitution). Despite the injustice of this verdict, I hope the Huguenins will photograph the "wedding" - and do as good a job as those who would use force to enslave others deserve.
What’s the legality of a sign in the window reading something along the lines of, “Gay weddings: We’ll do it, but we don’t have to like it”?
Colossians 3:17 — And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
Colossians 3:23 — Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters,
I think that a poor idea, WRT any sort of witness.
Sue them if they don't pay.
Certainly an option.
“The conservative right is going about this all wrong. Using first amendment “freedom of speech” is too amorphous of a legal argument given how many “special cases” of its curtailment have been enshrined into case law... think fire/crowded theater.”
You absolutely CAN yell fire in a theater HOWEVER if there is not fire and people get injured you can and should be fined.
And the term CASE law is the most vile and corrosive thought process and leads to the total destruction of our Constitution.
CASE LAW thanks to communist professors has been used to circumvent the Amendment process which is the ONLY LEGAL way to change the basic founding document of our country.
Because of the most dishonest people in the world, lawyers this case law crap has made a mess out our entire legal process and only the rules of FR prevent me from suggesting what should be done to those who believe in it.
A bunch of black-robed god-kings who, apparently, have never read the state's constitution:
Art II, Sec. 11. [Freedom of religion.]
Every man shall be free to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience, and no person shall ever be molested or denied any civil or political right or privilege on account of his religious opinion or mode of religious worship. No person shall be required to attend any place of worship or support any religious sect or denomination; nor shall any preference be given by law to any religious denomination or mode of worship.
“You could make the argument that America is different, that it won’t kill us....”
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Why should America be different from other nations? It IS killing us, like it is killing European societies.
Take the booking and call them the day before with a family emergency.
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