[0.E.O]

The members of the original convention and the state convetion were the politicians of the day (a much wiser lot, mind you). There will definitely be politics involved in choosing the delegates, as there was then. It will be battled out in the legislative chambers. This is how we do things in republican governments.

I look at Congress and I look at the legislatures and I don't see any Madisons or Washingtons or Franklins or Hamiltons or Shermans or any of the quality of leaders that gave us this magnificent document to begin with. I see hacks and egoists and boobs and snake-oil salesmen. God help anyone who has to live under the kind of Constitution they would come up with.

[cotton1706]

“I look at Congress and I look at the legislatures and I don’t see any Madisons or Washingtons or Franklins or Hamiltons or Shermans or any of the quality of leaders that gave us this magnificent document to begin with.”

That’s true. It was an amazing group of men, of the first, second and even third tiers.

But there have been scheming rogues in every time, mainly because they are the types that go into politics for the most part, and as John Adams wrote, the “ones with teh deepest pockets or the least scruples” get elected. It has always been so. We have to work with what we have. I’m sure there are men like Cruz and Lee in the legislatures out there.

[Madame Dufarge]

I look at Congress and I look at the legislatures and I don't see any Madisons or Washingtons or Franklins or Hamiltons or Shermans or any of the quality of leaders that gave us this magnificent document to begin with

Have you ever got that right; the current Boobus Americanus ruling class is an entirely different species.

All I can picture is them approaching the Constitution the same way the ape-like creatures in "2001" regarded the monolith. Its destruction is almost assured.

We'll never see the likes of these giants again:

God, The Original Intent