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i'm glad I moved out of that frozen craphole 35 years ago.
1 posted on 08/22/2013 7:19:36 AM PDT by shortstop
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Article to why folks are moving out of blue states to red states.


2 posted on 08/22/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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After his idiocy the other day I give him zero credibility. But he should have also pointed that bus north into the Adirondack park. And looked at the timber industry destroyed on the altar of the APA and Sierra Club.

And all the ruins of towns and villages left in it’s wake.


3 posted on 08/22/2013 7:26:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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after being raised in CNY I moved away from syracuse in 1989 and never looked back.

I did have to laugh at the writer’s reference to the “great weather.” Lol!


9 posted on 08/22/2013 8:17:55 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I was just in NY in May. NYC looks just like any other city in the world except for the clowns pulling silly stunts in the streets to try to get media attention.

Chicago or Detroit would have worked better for the author's purpose.

16 posted on 08/22/2013 9:09:58 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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An astute student of history and human nature, Thomas Jefferson, predicted what we see happening here in America. While a strong case can be made that the French aristocracy brought it upon themselves, as ambassador in France, he witnessed the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.

He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.

That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.

(A 6 minute video with this information may be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypLu49pq3bI)

As I understand it, at the time of the drafting of the Declaration, Mr. Jefferson originally wrote “…Life, Liberty and PROPERTY…” (meaning that one’s right to freely acquire, use and dispose of his property – to the extent doing so did not violate the same to others – was a Creator endowed right. Because slavery viewed humans as property, the phrase “Pursuit of Happiness” was adopted instead to avoid – at least for the time being — the inevitable debate on that subject.

“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230

“I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173

“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304

“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401

“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402

“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120


17 posted on 08/22/2013 9:15:21 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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A story this very important and 17 replies???

I wonder if it was the time of day?

This is so much a preview of other states problems.

It is very important to understand how it happens!


18 posted on 08/22/2013 2:13:01 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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Testing 1,2,3

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20 posted on 08/22/2013 2:30:32 PM PDT by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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