[Kenny Bunk]

Although I have spent many nights in a Holiday Inn Express, I just don't feel fully qualified to define a "natural born Citizen," as required by Article II.

I have definite ideas on the subject, though. One of those ideas is that a "natural born Citizen" is the offspring of two American citizens, whether naturalized, natives, or naturals.

Call me crazy, but I would really like the SCOTUS to look at one of the many well-founded appeals that has reached their office. Instead, various of the black-robed bum-kissers have admitted avoiding the issue all together on various legal pretexts they have cobbled together, some based on the "no standing" doctrine, as if this issue were a medical malpractice suit or an insurance claim. IOW, I have no right to know because I didn't run against the gay community organizer from Chicago myself?

Now this Cruz fellow is really doing us a favor, because as the redoubtable Carp points out, his case does not involve the facts of his origin. They are simple enough. He was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father. End of story. The question is, "Does the LAW say he's an American natural?"

Now if that ain't a question for the Supremes, I don't know what the hell could be. Win, lose, or draw, Cruz is doing us a real favor, unlike the Mombasa MF who has managed to throw the fog of mystery and confusion over every aspect of his deep, dark past.

What about Rubio? Neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. Does the LAW say he's eligible just because he was born in Florida? Both of the Gippo Jihadi MF Morsi's kids were born here. Does that mean THEY are eventually eligible to run for POTUS?

Come on Supremes! Shift your robèd rumps and figure out a way to give us some answers. Start small. Is the offspring of two aliens born here a citizen? Of two illegal aliens? What is a citizen anyway? Then the grand finale: "What is an Art. II "natural born Citizen?" This ain't about Obama, at least any more. It's about the Constitution of The United States. It's about the Republic.

[Seizethecarp]

“Win, lose, or draw, Cruz is doing us a real favor, unlike the Mombasa MF who has managed to throw the fog of mystery and confusion over every aspect of his deep, dark past.”

After-birthers and Fogblowers doing a happy-dance over the recent seemingly credible claims that Barry’s WH LFBC pdf anomalies can be replicated on a Xerox WorkCentre copier have no explanation for all of the layers of plausible deniability legally constructed and aggressively litigated appearing to protect Barry from liability for forging his own BC!

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

Well said, and I hope you’re right about Cruz’ intent being to bring the NBC/eligibility question to a head. Unfortunately, as time goes by, I become ever more cynical about the whole mess.

The globalists have decided that A2S1C5 is an impediment to their goals, and it is therefore being systematically neutered. Until the government once again fears the citizenry, rather than the other way around, we’ll continue down this road to complete subjugation and tyranny.

It’s enough to make eagles weep.

[LucyT]

This ain't about Obama, at least any more. It's about the Constitution of The United States. It's about the Republic.

Check out # 29.

Thanks, Kenny Bunk.

[David]

Having significant familiarity with the authorities, background, and history of the Natural Born Clause in Article II, Sec. 1, as well as with the views of the Constitutional Law Bar on the question, I can tell you what the consensus is about the current state of the law.

It is generally believed that the Supreme Court would rule that any person born in the United States would be treated as Natural Born; any person not born in the United States would be treated as not Natural Born, no matter what their citizenship status was as a result of birth.

The parent and grandparent citizenship status questions are not viewed as affecting the outcome.

And that is a generally reliable forecast of the Supreme Court outcome by lawyers who practice before the Court on a regular basis.

All that said, the Court is increasingly drifting in the direction of political resolution of this kind of issue and even though the lawyers are in general agreement about what the law is, there is no conclusive precedent that controls and it would not be surprisng to find the Court on a decision that upheld eligibility even for someone born outside the US.

Personally, I strongly support Cruz—I think he would make the most effective candidate.

But, on the current state of the law, I am of the legal opinion that he is not eligible. To date, I have not seen anything that conclusively demonstrates that he was even born a citizen of the United States.

His mother was a citizen? Sure. But the child of a US Citizen mother and non Citizen father born outside the US is a US Citizen at birth only if the mother meets very specific tests set out in the Citizenship statutes.

In order to know whether Cruz passes, you need to know his birth date; his mother’s birth date; the period in which her primary residence was in the geographical limits of the US.

The statutory requirements were amended from time to time with amendments being effective with respect to children born after a specified date.

Further, the consensus of the Constitutional Bar is that the Mother Citizenship statute is not constitutional because there is no equal provision for a Father Citizenship.

Finally, I am concerned that what will happen is that the media will lead Conservatives down the path of support for Cruz until other Conservative candidates are out; then the media will discover that he is not eligible and will send the Republican’s off to nominate Bush or Christie; leaving us with a choice of the Liberal Democrat or a Liberal Republican.

What should be done is to force an effort to identify the place of birth of the present occupant of the White House and use his ineligibility as leverage to get a statutory resolution validating Cruz. That needs to be done now while there is still leverage which will disappear at the end of the current term.